Iwata: Wii Hasn't Reached Limit Yet (plus 3DS talk)

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gum said:

Play4Fun said:

 It doesn't matter if it hasn't reached its limit. It's not getting nor is it going to get much  more third party support (worth mentioning).

Nintendo can't keep pushing the console on mostly first-party alone. They have to release a successor that caters to third party wants and needs, then they can leave it for a ten year life cycle for all I care.

But maybe Iwata is being serious...maybe there is no new console coming soon. Like, say, late 2012.

Right Iwata? *Nudge, Nudge*   *Wink Wink*

Many people say basically the same thing : that Nintendo should release a successor to the Wii as soon as they can because it will never have a decent third party support. But I don't see how releasing a new console now would change that: why would developers work on a new Nintendo console with an inexistant installed base rather than on the Wii? In order to have a good third party support this new console would need to have basically the same power than the PS360 in order to have ports. But the problem is that when the much more powerful next home consoles from Sony and MS will be released in few years, developers will probably once again stop developping for the Nintendo console and start making more graphically advanced software for PS4 and 720. So releasing a new console now doesn't make sense for Nintendo imo. This is as stupid as the Pachter's Wii HD idea.

On the other hand the Wii has a huge installed base, it only lacks some HCG. The situation is evolving favorably imo as more and more third party games are selling very well on the sysem like EM, COD; BO,  Golden Eye or Sonic Colors last year. And the more they will manage to attract more (hardcore) gamers the more these kind of third party successes will be common. So despite releasing a new console early Nintendo should try to maintain the Wii as long as they can, releasing more hardcore games probably and games that third party can "duplicate" -like RPGs or even FPS- in order to create a more viable market for all kind of content. Once they will have a more decent third party support then it will be the right time to release another console. And if they can't do that at least they should wait for the next Sony MS consoles before launching the Wii2.

No publisher/dev will start all of a sudden caring about the Wii. The system is dead to third parties. I just read that not a single publisher was interested in publishing Super Meat Boy for the Wii, thus it got cancelled. On the other hand it was released for PC and 360. That's simply 1 example, but there are countless circumstances where devs badmouth or honestly express their disinterest or dislike for the Wii. Take a look at the big Japanese 3rd party publishers (Capcom, Namco Bandai, Konami, Sega, Square-Enix, Tecmo Koei) and notice how outside DQX (which is not coming out in a long time) there's no other game coming up (Conduit 2 but that's not even semi big). The system is dead to 3rd party Japanese publishers and on the verge of dying here in the West as well, where there's basically nothing coming up this year either.

Tell me why would Nintendo be interested in keeping a dead console alive, when their existing installed base isn't active anymore. It would be a much better idea to transfer all their remaining innovative ideas to their next console. And also try and fix their relations with 3rd party devs, because it's at an all time low concerning their home console and by next gen I'm pretty sure the console will be totally ignored by a big chunck of the industry if this isn't fixed. The point is, if Nintendo wants to make a console that fits their needs only, then fine, they will keep on selling monstruous quantities of their own software and then those 3rd parties that do manage to adapt to their strategy will somehow do well. But the rest of the industry isn't too keen on adapting to the rules of other company, so ignoring Nintendo is their strategy. Nintendo HAS to make a console with a big dose of innovation but also one that is attractive for 3rd parties to work with. They have the Wii brand alive, I think it's best for them to launch a new system with the Wii brand before it's too late, before the Wii dies a miserable death. They can do a lot to provide third paties a great platform, just like they are doing with 3DS. If they wait more than a year now then I'll be ready to say that Nintendo will be ignored and their next home console dead on arrival with 3rd party support. They are playing a very dangerous game, but I know Nintendo is going to annunce their new console really soon. You got to notice that most of their 1st party published games aren't even made by 1st or 2nd party devs anymore. Nintendo is using their internal teams to create 3DS and Wii 2 software. That also explains the big drought Wii is going through now and the decreasing quality of their 1st party published SW.