Nintendo Comments Sales: Wut???

[trestres]

Smashchu2 said:

trestres said:

axt113 said:

trestres said:

axt113 said:

The good news is Nintendo realizes their mistake in 2010, now hopefully they will make sure 2011 has some killer apps

Iwata has been saying that since 2009 after the terrible drought through that year and the terrible 2008 holiday lineup. And guess what? Sales have been going down since. It's out of their control. Wii will not go up again in sales.

No, its not out of their control, its completely withn their control, they just haven't done it, we saw with NSMB, that they can still hit record sales with the right software, they just didn't follow it up with anything afterwards, they didn't keep the NSMB momentum going with other software, Other M and Galaxy and Skyward are jokes, those types of games aren't going to move systems, two of them already flopped, they need to maintain momentum from their big titles, and they haven't done that these past few years, which is why we've seen sales slowly sink.

It's out of their control. Mainly because there is competition. And also, if they want to garner so much attention towards the 3DS it's safe to assume Wii will lose a big part of the spotlight it still had. Kinect and now the 3DS and the NGP are going to undoubtedly take away attention from the Wii. This years line up is way worse than last year, so it seems that Nintendo didn't learn a thing from their mistakes.

In fact I think that Nintendo will solely focus on the Wii with big titles on the Holiday season from now on. Just take a look at sales from this year vs. sales from last year. Wii is already in a big decline and there's absolutely nothing coming up in the first half of the year for the West, save for Mario Sports Mix which isn't even that big and will not make an impact in HW. There's no 3rd party SW nor 1 st party SW. Zelda: SS is a Q4 title at the earliest and then the schedule is empty.

Are you sure they learnt from their mistakes? Market has already shifted and is losing interet in the console, that's out of their control and there's no reversing that.

You are neglecting a lot of data.

The Wii sold 4 million console in December, and was up year over year from March to around June in the US (I think it went down in July). The system managed to sell ~2.5 million in Decembner despite competition from Kinect. And on Kinect, notice how software is doing terrible for the system and is not increasing 360 sales.

When there is no good software, the Wii does bad. When there is good software, the Wii does good. You should be able to put 2 and 2 together to see that compeling software is the key, meaning, yes, Nintendo has control over the situation.

I'm not neglecting any data, you are. Look at the situation of the Wii worldwide, the system just lost its steam last year, I don't know how you can deny that. Plus Nintendo had already said that lack of compelling software is what caused the slowing sales from 2008 to 2009, and guess what? They are saying the same now for 2010 over 2009. I bet they'll say the same next year when 2011 does worse than 2010. You notice the trend, it's out of their control. When they use the same excuse for 2 consecutive years you know there's something wrong.
They just can't perform miracles and Wii is way past its prime, believing so otherwise is irrational and wishful thinking. If you believe that Wii is going to see a lift in sales this year based on new software then let's make a bet. I say that the Wii is going to sell less units each year for the remainder of its life, no matter what software Nintendo releases.

And ignoring the massive decline in sales for the Wii  compared to the growth of the other 2 consoles is mind boggling. How do you expect people to take seriously what you say when you are ignoring that the sales lost from the Wii went to its competitors? I think it's more of a shift in interest or saturation rather than lack of software. Last year Nintendo released a lot more SW than in 2009 and quite a few big games, yet sales kept on going down for it and up for the HD consoles. Kinect had an impact on the Wii, so did PSMove but to a much lower extent. 3DS will destroy Wii's momentum.