I think it's safe to say that kinect will push the 360 above ps3..

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greenmedic88 said:

I don't believe it will happen in 2011 but if it does, I will propably say something like "oh".

Current sales trends are tracking in a way that have the lead being cut to zero if not by the end of 2011, then sometime early in 2012.

think you should wait 2 week before start speaking of current trends, let's not forget that xbox outsold ps3 for almost 4 months before move released. And I suspect that the kinect effect will be VASTLY superior to the move one in terms of sales.

 

That aside it's a fact that at the end of this generation you'll either have the hd twins close in second place or, if kinect hits hard, you may have a PS3 distant third. Whatever happens, it will be a success for the xbox brand and a modest result for the playstation brand (taking into account initial expetations and previous generation results).

Tell me, if 360 comes in 3rd, how is it a success for the xbox brand?  Nintendo almost invented the practical home console and though it came in 3rd with gamecube it made a profit.  SONY came in as the new kid with the PS1 and DOMINATED the competition, then PS2 DOMINATED the competition.  PS3 will be remembered as a little disapointing sales wise, but still the #1 HD console.  XBOX managed to lose MS millions of dollars with its crappy sales, and 360 is bound to come in 3rd place a second time in a row while being remembered as the console that breaks!  Yeah I can see the crowds of people gathering for the XBOX3 while they are remembering just how unreliable xbox's are when they come out. 

Now be good don't try to flamebait me :) You understod very well what I meant. It is not being 1st, 2nd or 3rd that matters. What's important it's how far apart they'll end up to. X360 has a chance to put the ps3 in 3rd place definitively (that means with a margin > 15mln). Microsoft's console it's already in 2nd position by 4mln and with an huge kinect success that can realistically happen. The best PS3 can do, if kinect fails, is to catch up with the 360 by 2012 and maybe have a 2mln vantage by the time a new xbox came out. Whatever happens xbox performed better then most people thought back in 2005-2006 and PS3 performed far worse than most people (including sony) predicted. Xbox wasn't a successful brand last generation, they managed to turn around the gaming division, sold a lot and became also profitable. Can you say the same for the playstation ragarding this past 4 years comparing to the previous 4?

While the PS3 did not perform as well as expected.  I can say it was EASILY a success.  Sony is going to make a boatload off of Blue Ray and if the PS3 passes 360 in 2011 due to Kinect failing, MS will be forced to make a new console soon.  Since PS3 is easily the most powerful console and is capable of full 3D, the nextbox will be up against PS3 for a good 2 years with games that are probably near equal in graphics. 

 

This is all speculation, but no one can say XBOX was a huge success since it has bairly profited MS, while Playstation has always profited sony (Again remember Blue Ray)!

i can say it was easly a failure. i dont call 5 billion in loses a sucess do you. the 360 has been profitable for 3 years and will continue to be for 5 years(estimated time ms stops making 360's).  the ps3 might be profitable but the finacial records continue to show the playstion brand brand loosing money.

For the millionth time, the money SONY is, and will be making in Blue Ray more than make up for it.

your right but u cant say that if ps3 didnt have blue ray that blue ray would have failed. blue-ray is awsome it would have succeded without ps3 so the money blue-ray makes doesnt matter in relation to ps3's massive losses.