theonewhoisme said:
- Yes I am you aren't, only half the console failures were covered by the extended warranty, and even that is only for 3 years, the failrate is around 40-50% overall, ps3s is around 10-15% overall, and the % of paided to have repaired would be about equal, even if you cut the 360s in half and assume best case for 360 and worst for ps3, ps3 would still have a higher install base, and in addition to that, ps3 had higher software sales in 2009 and almost certainly has higher in 2010, -fine it has one good exclusives coming out at the end of next year, so I exaggerated a little and you just helped prove my point, even with those exclusives ps3 consistently outsold 360, and 2011 looks even worse (fyi fable and conviction aren't exclusive, and conviction is going to be on ps3 in a year also) and with the exception of reach (which almost everyone who bought owned a 360 already) the sales of the other games were pretty poor -exclusives and features are the only things that matter, and ps3 having blu ray and free online is far more compelling to casuals then getting map packs early on 360 -Frankly I didn't mention them because I feel whatever impact they have is going to be about equal and cancel each other out -yes I am, I just didn't state everything that I knew in my original post |
I'm just going to go point to point.
- There is no way you or anyone else could possibly know that only half of Xbox 360 failures were replaced. Unless MS released a statement you and anyone would be guessing. The warrenty covered THE common failure which only effect high numbers of early models. Once MS instituted the 3 year warrenty they replaced all unmodified Xbox 360s for free with a more reliable unit and as even more reliable models were manufactured the failure rate droped down to almost nothing with the release of the Slim. You are taking numbers from unscientific polling for granted ans assuming both the worst and that people trashed their replacible machines. The only RROD users who didn't get replacements for free were kids who modded their boxes or tried to fix them themselves, voiding their warrenty. The RROD fault usualy happens early on in the machines life so 3 years is kind of overkill since the warrenty of the replacement is the same. As for software sales, it's true that the PS3 has had very strong software sales, due to it's popularity in Europe and Japan. But MS dominates HD sales in the US where the market is the largest. The only market that MS can't really improve much in is Japan, but Europe could go either way. However, who knows how Kinect will effect the Japanese market. Are they tired of motion controls, or hungry for something new and exciting? Time will tell.
-Like I said, MS doesn't like to anounce their big games while they are still trying to sell their current crop. For all you know MS could have the greatest lineup of exclusives the world has ever seen. I'm not assuming they do, but history has shown that MS keeps it's linup a mystery while Sony and Nintendo spill the beans early. You shouldn't assume MS has nothing when time and time again MS has shown very strong linups, year after year. Xbox 360 exclusives might not interest you, but millions of other games love them. This has happened nearly every year the Xbox 360 has been on the market. At the end of the year people complain that MS doesn't have anything for the next year. But then the next year comes and we find out that they have big titles nearly every month. As for the deffinition of exclusives. In my opinion if you walk into a Game Stop and a game is only available on one console, it's exclusive. There's a reason that VGchartz doesn't track PC game sales, this is a CONSOLE war not a "Platform War". You can disagree with me on this, but not everyine with an Xbox 360/PS3 has a PC rig that can run games. Oh, and you're just guessing again about Splinter Cell Conviction. It could go multiplatform, but you shouldn't take it for granted untill it it's anounced.
-Exclusives and features do matter, but that's not all that matters. More people pay to play Call of Duty on Xbox Live than play it for free on PSN. There are a lot of reasons for this, but it really doesn't matter. Both machines have exclusive games and features. You can't possibly know whats more compelling to casuals. You're just assuming they are like you. US gaming has shifted, in a big way, to the Xbox 360. I don't see that changing at this point just like I don't see Japan suddingly shifting away from PS3. Europe is a toss up.
-It seems to me you're hoping they are equal and cancel each other out. Move has sold well, but it's not going crazy. That's fact. What's not fact is the future of Kinect. Honestly I don't know what will happen. That's why it's a good discussion topic and important in assessing the future sales of both consoles. If Kinect fails Sony will have an easier time catching up. If Kinect starts a new fad with soccer moms and family fun nights MS could pull far ahead. That unknown is a huge factor.
-Upon reading your second post I have to say I don't believe you are being objective. You are clearly a fan of the Playstation brand, nothing wrong with that, but you've let youself "forgive and forget" you're way to a PS3 2012 future that is hardly set in stone.
ike I said, there's nothing wrong with being a fan, but I think you are ignoring a lot of important data and assuming too much.
