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Conegamer said:
thx1139 said:
Conegamer said:
Michael-5 said:

Generally there are not too many games that push high numbers of consoles. I mean 2008 was the 360's strongest year and it really only had Gears of War 2, Fable 2, Left 4 Dead, Fallout 3, Rock Band 2, and Dead Space.

So 6 console pushers among many other great titles.

2010 has Halo: Reach, Rock Band 3, Fable 3, Fallout: New Vegas, Medal of Honor, Dead Rising 2, and about 20 Kinect exclusive titles (15 come out on launch). Actually comparing the games, 2x Fallout, 2x Fable, 2x Rock Band, Halo to Gears, LEft 2 Dead to Dead Rising 2, and Dead Space to Medal of Honour, the 2008 and 2010 lineup seem really similar. So adding Kinect to that is more then likely to ensure the 360's peak year.

I don't think Kinect is competing with a lack-luster lineup. FIFA and Guitar Hero may be periodic, but the rest of the games I named are solid.

I just think that the other two consoles have better line-ups. They're great and all, but can it compete with, say a new Kirby, Donkey Kong AND Goldeneye game (among others) as well as the Wii? We'll see, but I believe that Microsoft are almost discounting the Wii (and, to an extent, Move), and expect it to ride out the wave of the Slim (which is old news now), AND Halo: Reach (which I doubt will have much of an impact overall)

I'm just not expecting great things for the price...

Well ya know what the 360 lineup can compete with the likes of Kirby, Donkey Kong and Goldeneye.

Best sales for Kirby on a console was 1.77M so really what does it represent. Another Nintendo franchise that Nintendo faithful (already have Wii's)  hype and not many other people buy.  Donkey Kong which 16 years ago sold 8 million copies. Which means people that dont have Wii's have been waiting for this game and no other game on the Wii. Finally Goldeneye,honestly do you really believe that Goldeneye will be a better FPS than Reach  COD:Black Ops.  Nope it may give Wii fans a FP, but that is about all.

I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that SOME people will get these games/ a Wii at Christmas as opposed to an Xbox and Kinect. It seems to me as though MS are thinking that everyone who will buy an Xbox will get Kinect with it/not Move/not Wii/not Xbox games. I just feel as though it won't be as big as they think.

Wii will outsell 360 there is no doubt about that. Fable, Halo, and Kinect will all sell well, but combined all 3 probably only just match Wii Party sales. Then the Wii has DKCR, Kirby, and Goldeneye. To be fair Kirby and Goldeneye probabably won't sell that many units.

The only comment I want to address is the 360's "lackluster" fall lineup. I disagree, and I have proven it above. Maybe games like FallOut won't push that many consoles, but Black: Ops will, and it's not like Kirby will draw in a hue audience either.

Now I do think Wii will come ontop again for 2010 fall, it's almost certain, but it's not because the Wii is that much better then the 360. The 360 has one of it's strongest lineups this fall, and personally I see it above PS3 (With GT5 and LBP, thats it...).

I think with all the hype the 360 Slim has generation, the large marketing budget for the Kinect, and the quality of some of the games, I think Kinect will sell 3 million. As a standalone unit, I'll agree it is expensive, but as a $299 bundle with an Arcade 360 Slim, thats not a bad deal. you get the HD multiconsole lineup along with the 360 exclusive line-up, and Kinect gaming which may seem "newer" then the Wii. This is only $90 more then the Wii, and it still satisfies both the 15 year old teenager, and his grandma.

I mean Kinect plus a 360, or a PS3... You can always buy a 16 gig thumb drive for DLC at $20 or so. I have the old 20 gig SKU 360 (only 14 gigs are usable), and I recently started using an 8 gig thumb drive. I still have 5 gigs to spare, and I consider myself a pretty hardcore gamer. 4 gigs is definatly more then enough as long as you get no DLC.

I sill think Wii will outsell the 360 significantly, and imagine how much of a landslide Wii will have sales-wise with just a price cut?



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