| windbane said: This is getting very ridiculous. Apple switched to Intel because they were slower for years. Much more expensive? Are you serious? The one good part of Macs were they were affordable, because their CPU was so outdated. I've built computers for years, I've looked at benchmarks for years, and I can assure you that the Macs were MUCH SLOWER than Intel CPUs at any point in time for at least the last decade. Why do you think gamers didn't buy them? And if you want to talk Supercomputers, the Cell is used for those now. Supercomputers 10 years ago aren't that fast and do not indicate consumer level prices. The PowerPC CPU did not undergo any sort of revolution like the Core Duo. So the architechture may have improved, but not that much. I'm not sure why you guys are equating architecture improvements of first AMD that started the 1500, 1600, etc line that estimated clock speed equivalent models and then Intel's Core Duo that increased performance by 30% with PowerPC CPUs. If PowerPCs really got that much faster show me some benchmarks. |
Please don't twist around my statements. I said that the PPC was faster than a Pentium 3 at the same clockspeed. Show me a benchmark that show, that Pentium 3 or Pentium 4 outperform a PPC at same clockspeed. The architecture was optimized for higher clockspeeds, so they can reach much higher clockspeeds. But at the same rate they suck. And back to the original statement: I said that the Wii must be faster than the XBox, if they have nearly the same clockspeed, but I know the XBOX had Pentium 3-architecture and the Wii have a PPC.
Even if the PowerPC was as efficient as the Intel Core Duo (the best processor in the world right now), it would only be abotu 50% better at the same clock speed. Yeah, that's a great improvement, but if you are still below 800MHz there's only so much better it can be. |
The Core is another beast. Intel had the architecture for many years around, they used it in the Pentium M. As they cannot further increase GHz on the Netburst-architecture (Pentium 4) because of the heat produced, they switched to the architecture of the Pentium M, calling it Core now.
Also, i LOVE how you guys are ignoring the other benchmarks. Look at the freaking GPU numbers on the Wii! it's barely better than previous generations as well. The RAM is even more sad of a situation. So we can continue this architecture arguement until someone shows some benchmarks but you can't change the other facts. Oh wait, next you'll be telling me that the GPU and RAM is SUPER-MEGA-OPTIMIZED LIKE NOTHING BEFORE because for some reason Nintendo holds the secrets of computing and is selling it at a loss. Oh wait, their Wii is worth around $150. That's right, I forgot. |
Dont make the impression, I said that the Wii outperforms the 360 or PS3. I never said that. I said, that with the posted clockspeeds the Wii-CPU must be faster than the XBOX-CPU. If you ever try again to twist around my statements, I think I will report your posts to mod. For now I hope you simply got my point wrong.
Edit: About the Apple: Even now with the Core-CPU (the best CPU on the world as you say) the Apple will not become a gamer-station. Apple dont focus on gamers. Apple hasn't the fastest PC's, but the performance of an Apple was always around the performance of a standard-PC of the same time.
