Wii...most immature

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Bladeneo said:

souixan said:

Bladeneo said:

Avinash_Tyagi said:

Mummelmann said:
Games like Manhunt 2 are plain uneccessary.
@ Avinash: Gran Turismo, Halo, Tomb Raider, Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil, Tekken, Starcraft, Half-Life, Final Fantasy and GTA are niche titles? These are the best selling games in the history of gaming on their respective platforms!
I'll never take any of your posts seriously again...

lol, you're looking a niche market and saying that the sales of those niche titles in that niche market mean that those are huge titles, yeah 5 million copies of a game out of a 100 million consoles out of billions of people, face it, you're limited (5 percent of a market hich serves a fraction of the world is laughable)

So youre pretty happy if all of a sudden everyone stops developing games such as RE and GT? Yay! Lets all go out and buy Cooking Mama 38, this time you can MICROWAVE the food. The futures bright eh?

 

Cooking Mama 38 is the bomb, you can actually cook mama! But really... why use sequels to attack someone it's kinda stupid because I mean everything that sells is bound to get them (MGS, Final Fantasy etc) if I didn't know any better I'd assume you hated sequels because of their nature not because you didn't like the original.(thankfully I know better.) Games like Manhunt 2 are fine side by side with games like Cooking Mama and Mario is fine next to Final Fantasy, they're all fine but don't look me in the eyes and tell me M rating means the game in itself is "Mature" the M rating just implies age maturity where children are more likely to be influenced, the crux of the problem is, these games are also more likely to draw the kids attention(scroll up on this screen to see the "West Wing Jackass" analogy. A prime example would be the media on No More Heroes a M rated game that is far from Mature according to what's being said it at no point is or takes itself seriously. There's nothing wrong with that either, sometimes I want childish and goofy, sometimes I want gore and sometimes I want to laugh at something that's ridiculous and knows that it is as thus. (Games that are ridiculous but take themselves seriously are... well I cringe)

I wasn't debating that maturity in rating = maturity in game or gamers. I was saying that the picture that Avinash was painting would ultimately lead to a future were the most popular games are ones that are just casual success remixed and thrown out to milk the profits as much as possible. He was suggesting that the most successful games of now and the past are niche products that will decline, and I asked if he felt this was a step in the right direction, which he didnt answer.

 

On topic, no, maturity rating doesnt equal maturity in the game or gamers. But it certainly says something about your target audience thats for sure.

 You got it all wrong... Now, that GTA was mentioned, it fits the category of a casual appeal. Now, the niche becoming even more niche, doesn't mean, that it sales, in number of units, would decline, it means that when market expands, the percentage of people playing these games is smaller than before, even if the number would increase.

Anyway, what Avinash was talking about, is that there are 6 billion people in the world, for those 6 billion last gen sold about 170 million consoles, and for those 170 million consoles, best of those titles, mummelman mentioned, sold 15 million copies, if i recall, (i don't count PC games in this time). So, less than 10% of those 170 million consoles have the best selling game think how many people in the world does not own that game. I think it does fit for a category of "niche". 

Maybe you want to complain about the future most popular games are not the type you like, but everytime someone invents something new, that gets popular, it's the same thing with old gamers. For example, when gaming went to 3D, a lot of good 2D games were fucked up. A lot of people complained. Next thing that happened, was FPS:s and violent sandbox games getting popular. A lot people complained. Now, the thing that is happening, is Wii getting popular by it's "casual" appeal (which has been the key to success as long as videogames have existed). A lot of people complain. As long as people keep buying the games they like, that type of games will keep coming, basically the only threat t, for example GTA, is that the casuals, who buy the game, will find some other casual game instead.

 

 BenKenobi88 said:
Well there are a ton of games for Wii that are meant for young children. That's because the Wii appeals to all ages...you don't see such games on 360 and PS3 as much, because they're more expensive, and don't appeal to young kids as well.

That doesn't mean the Wii or its userbase is immature...perhaps it means that those who play the Wii are just there for some entertainment, and perhaps don't need an M rated game, which means blood, language, or nudity.

 

I think i got this all wrong... I tried to figure out that what games Wii has, that are targeted for kids, but i couldn't think of any... So what games are we exactly talking about?