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Well yes for a GOTY it underperformed in the US, but I don't think he is aware of the European numbers.
It also will have nice legs.

How should it have performed? I never understand this "underperformed" talk. Underperformed compared to what?

Better. It's a shooter, one of the best reviewed games of all time, hyped..... just better.

 

When we look at NPD numbers, UC2 barely out performs Borderlands (360) in the US. Not that, what you would expect from a GOTY winner and sequel to a very good exclusive game.

No. It isn't a shooter in the eyes of those who buy it, it wasn't even marketed as a shooter. So, since you can't tell me what expectations actually matter here, outside of Naughty Dog, the answer is it "underperformed" by standards of people on VG Chartz gaming forum.

Naughty Dog expects  to just sell 2.5mill copies total. The game is well on it's way to pass that. It performed BETTER than they expected. That's what I'll go by.

A shooter is a shooter. If GTA didn't have any shooter elements almost no one would buy it.

If ND expected to win several GOTY awards and only sell 2.5m copies, then they clearly had too low expectations.

Valve surely didn't release the possibly best shooter of the century just to barely break even.

GTA nor Uncharted are shooters. There's shooting in them, but there are not known as shooters, period!

As for Naughty Dog, how do you know what breaking even is or not? We don't know that. Also, predicting 2.5mill is in line with what the first one has done. It was a realistic prediction. It just so happens that Uncharted 2 ended up being one of the greatest games this gen has seen.Naughty Dog, you, me, nor anyone else could have predicted that to happen, let alone it getting GOTY.

That is why it will shatter their expectations.

Neither is Gears of War. It's a post-apocalyptic, squad based exploration game with sporadic gunfights.

Well, Gears is primarily shooting, unlike Uncharted or GTA. Not really comparable.

I don't know what you did in Uncharted 2, but I shot bad guys in the majority of the time.

And platformed, and solved puzzles. There's a reason it's called: Action Adventure. It's very much like Tomb Raider, and in the eyes of many in the public, that's just what it is: thus - not a shooter.

Sure and I'm reading the Playboy because of the nice articles.

In Uncharted you do:

1. Shooting

2. Platforming

3. Solving puzzles

in that order sorted by things you do most of the time.

 

It's totally fine to call it an action adventure, but it's totally wrong to dismiss the game's shooting elements. It's totally fine to call it a TPS with action adventure elements.

In the eyes of the public, it's a shooter and an action adventure. Both genre fans will enjoy the game.