1337 Gamer said:
regardless valve took them on and gave them the necessary support to get the game out the door so for that im counting it as their game. besides i was just trying to make a point. There are very few if any developers that can challange Valve as far as the number of groundbreaking AAA titles go. I know i certainly cant think of any. As for the source engine not being the best i was talking about graphics. I love the source engine and i am a huge valve supporter but lets face it it is definatly showing its age but it just goes to show you graphics arnt everything!
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For many engines I've yet to see someone other than their own original developers use them well. Like Unreal Engine is just about anything other than Unreal 3 and Gears looks average at best :\ and in that situation games like Left 4 Dead do look better even with an aged engine. As for games in the same genre (shooter) the only games I'd say really look better would be Gears, MW2, and the tech demo of the Cry Engine on PS3 and 360 (was freaking sick)
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