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steven787 said:

I don't agree Misterd, MS is in this to make money. They already have market share.

Xbox 1 was already had some of the features, 360 has many more at a price MS considers fair for a Home Media Center Household hub. The problem is people don't want one of those things.

Also 360 isn't marketed as a media hub, it has those features, but there aren't ads saying this. It isn't a DVR, a key feature that a media hub should have. It is costing them not just billions, but billions more than expected.

They want it to be a media hub where millions of people will go and download MS content for MSpoints, but people aren't doing it.

Notice they tell us 6 million people have registered for Live, but don't tell us how many pay for Live Gold. Or how many paid downloads there have been. The reason? Because those numbers are disappointing. Or TV shows, or HD-DVD drives, etc. etc. etc. PSN has been just as unsuccessful, though I personally have downloaded more games than I ever thought I would because of the lack of "real" games.

It is a failure, not as big of a failure as PS3. But MS can afford to quit, they make their money off of OS, Search Engines, Online Services and Office. They won't keep it going past Holiday '09 if it isn't making money by Holiday '08. (They would use '09 as a way to catch up, investing very little and hope to make back some of their losses.)

Sony can't quit because the company has been structured around the success of the Playstation brand, Movies are the only profitable area left for them. Electronics are losing money for them. PS is losing money for them. Their attempts at entering PC's have been only marginally successful, while the Walkman has been killed by the Ipod. A lengthy life span for PS3 is their only option to bring the company as a whole back into the black.

(Edit: How is 360 doing well? It has been in a steady decline since the holidays. It is costing MS 1.5-2 billion a year to keep it afloat. The 360 has great games, but so did Sega Genesis, Neo Geo, and Sega Dreamcast)


The holidays are the high point in sales so of course there would be a decline. The 360 outsold both the Wii & PS3 for Holiday 06' so how has it fared so bad. With the line up it has it is on pace to outsell at least the PS3 this holiday again. I think it will be close to the Wii numbers for the simple fact Nintendo hasn't been able to keep up with demand all year so I don't see them doing it for the holidays.

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