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Forums - Sales Discussion - December 2017 NPD Thread! Switch 1.5m, XBO 1.365m, PS4 1.08m, Xenoblade 280k

Ryng on 19 January 2018
Aura7541 said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

7-7.5 million is probabily the most likely scenario with USA being 55-60% of WW sales.

Just when I edited my 2017 estimates in. Get out of my head, Ryng!

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killeryoshis on 20 January 2018
Farsala said:
killeryoshis said:
Are console sales starting to get more seasonal? The PS4 is selling on par as the PS3 on non-holiday months this year. Which is crazy. However the difference is mostly made in the holidays. Same goes for the Xbox.

I'm guessing the deals for the holidays are getting better to the point where buying it on a non-holiday month is a waste?

The PS4 is pretty balanced with Q1+Q2+Q3 vs Q4 (WW shipments) . 12 vs 6.6, 9.4 vs 8.4, 9.7 vs 9.7, 10.4 vs >6m

It largely depends on games and PS4 Pro though.

Swith will be similar with 7.63m vs ~7.5m.

XB1 however I don't believe is balanced at all with its recent performance vs XB1X and price cut boost.

Well that's the thing. I remember back during the Wii days the HD twins' ratio to holiday to non-holiday months were lower. The holiday boosts weren't high for them. Looking at this chart


You can see from this that PS4 and PS3 sales are practically identical in Non-holiday months. Yet when you reach the holiday season the difference is very large in favor of the PS4. When you compare the holiday ratio with the Switch it just proves my point. Nintendo systems have always sold really well on the holidays. That''s been the case forever. What surprises me is that the PS4 and Xbox are now following the trend as well. Could it be due to all the holiday deals? I think so.  When you can save $100 on a system just by waiting until the holiday season one must wonder what is the point of buying a system in a non-holiday month. 



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Farsala on 20 January 2018
killeryoshis said:
Farsala said:

The PS4 is pretty balanced with Q1+Q2+Q3 vs Q4 (WW shipments) . 12 vs 6.6, 9.4 vs 8.4, 9.7 vs 9.7, 10.4 vs >6m

It largely depends on games and PS4 Pro though.

Swith will be similar with 7.63m vs ~7.5m.

XB1 however I don't believe is balanced at all with its recent performance vs XB1X and price cut boost.

Well that's the thing. I remember back during the Wii days the HD twins' ratio to holiday to non-holiday months were lower. The holiday boosts weren't high for them. Looking at this chart


You can see from this that PS4 and PS3 sales are practically identical in Non-holiday months. Yet when you reach the holiday season the difference is very large in favor of the PS4. When you compare the holiday ratio with the Switch it just proves my point. Nintendo systems have always sold really well on the holidays. That''s been the case forever. What surprises me is that the PS4 and Xbox are now following the trend as well. Could it be due to all the holiday deals? I think so.  When you can save $100 on a system just by waiting until the holiday season one must wonder what is the point of buying a system in a non-holiday month. 

Not identical at all in the first year a bit bigger in 3rd. Then in its 2nd year PS3 is down yoy vs the PS4 peaking during the holidays which are both pretty abnormal.

Of course the deals matter, as well as PS4 Pro, big games like Destiny bundle, competition, official price cuts, and of course stock issues. The Wii had strong holidays but would have had strong non holidays months had it not been for the stock issues.

Overall I still think it is pretty balanced for PS4 and not so much for XB1.



bigjon on 21 January 2018
Pavolink said:
Congratulations Switch!
And BotW too! Biggest exclusive in 2017.

tbh, Mario Oddessy and BotW were easily the biggest exclusives of the year, and Xenoblade is not far behind. Horizon, if probably number 3, but after that??? Maybe Zenoblade... I am sure I am missing one.



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

Nuvendil on 21 January 2018
bigjon said:
Pavolink said:
Congratulations Switch!
And BotW too! Biggest exclusive in 2017.

tbh, Mario Oddessy and BotW were easily the biggest exclusives of the year, and Xenoblade is not far behind. Horizon, if probably number 3, but after that??? Maybe Zenoblade... I am sure I am missing one.

Pretty sure Splatoon 2 is over Xenoblade. Mario kart 8 Deluxe too.



tbone51 on 21 January 2018
Nuvendil said:
bigjon said:

tbh, Mario Oddessy and BotW were easily the biggest exclusives of the year, and Xenoblade is not far behind. Horizon, if probably number 3, but after that??? Maybe Zenoblade... I am sure I am missing one.

Pretty sure Splatoon 2 is over Xenoblade. Mario kart 8 Deluxe too.

Yeap as well as Crash Collection and ARMS woth 12S. Not sure but i think GTS is also ahead. Then there is pokemon



Wyrdness on 21 January 2018
bigjon said:
Pavolink said:
Congratulations Switch!
And BotW too! Biggest exclusive in 2017.

tbh, Mario Oddessy and BotW were easily the biggest exclusives of the year, and Xenoblade is not far behind. Horizon, if probably number 3, but after that??? Maybe Zenoblade... I am sure I am missing one.

Splatoon 2



bigjon on 21 January 2018
Wyrdness said:
bigjon said:

tbh, Mario Oddessy and BotW were easily the biggest exclusives of the year, and Xenoblade is not far behind. Horizon, if probably number 3, but after that??? Maybe Zenoblade... I am sure I am missing one.

Splatoon 2

I personally have not interest in Splatoon. So I probably over look it. Tp me Xenoblade as a  massive JRPG adds more to the switch portfolio. Best pure JRPG since tales of graces f in my opinion. 



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

Wyrdness on 21 January 2018
bigjon said:
Wyrdness said:

Splatoon 2

I personally have not interest in Splatoon. So I probably over look it. Tp me Xenoblade as a  massive JRPG adds more to the switch portfolio. Best pure JRPG since tales of graces f in my opinion. 

Splatoon 2 is still a bigger exclusive as it not only sells more but moves hardware.



Jranation on 22 January 2018

Is that good for Xenoblade?



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