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lestatdark on 21 March 2010
Pristine20 said:
dtewi said:
Pristine20 said:
lestatdark said:
KylieDog said:
Whats with the groups of owl like thigns in Gran Pulse having time liits of 18 minutes or so when they all killed in 5 seconds with 2 blitz attacks?

Yeah, those are heavily unbalanced. Even with mid level Tier 2 weapons, they're ridiculously high, 5 minutes.

I just faced a 1.5M juggernaught who has a 1 min and 36 seconds time limit.... yeah, that's fair XD  

Even with max crystallium, I have trouble 5-starring juggernaut. The time limit doesnt make sense

Special attacks and pre-emptive?

I cant pre-empt him. the only way I've 5-starred it is to use "infiltration (sab/sab/sab) cast deprotect, deshell, Imperil and slow. Then switch to tri-disaster (rav/rav/rav) and go all out till he staggers. He'll try to "steam clean" (remove ailments) before staggering. This mustn't happen or you wont make it.

 

Immediately after staggering him, switch to ''cerberus" (com/com/com) to take him out ASAP. The launch will prevent him from ever recovering. this is the only way I ever 5-star this battle

Yep, can't pre-empt him, but did get one 5/5. Oddly, he got staggered when I used espionage (SAB/SYN/SAB) and after that, it was gravvy. Didn't understand why he got staggered so fast though



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Carl on 21 March 2010
dtewi said:
Carl2291 said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
So, what weapon should I be upgrading for, say, Lightning?

Is it the Gladius? Or is there a better one?

The Gladius is the best approach if you're going into a more offensive role with Lightning, but it has a too high EXP cost.

I levelled the BlazeFire Gun, which was simpler and faster to get to the required level (26) to get to Tier 2. 

BlazeEdge is the most even weapon in the game, it's attack power is only 100 behind a fully upgraded Gladius... But it's magic is 400 greater than a fully upgraded Gladius.

I think i will upgrade that on my second playthrough actually.

Light's magic sucks anyway. It's sole purpose for me is building chains.

Hope, THAT'S where the money is.

I prefer offense for Light and Fang, their accessories boost their Str both by 107 total.

Sure, she's not the best at Magic... But shes a good secondary healer, and very good when used with Ravager building the Stagger.



                            

dtewi on 21 March 2010
Pristine20 said:
dtewi said:
Pristine20 said:
lestatdark said:
KylieDog said:
Whats with the groups of owl like thigns in Gran Pulse having time liits of 18 minutes or so when they all killed in 5 seconds with 2 blitz attacks?

Yeah, those are heavily unbalanced. Even with mid level Tier 2 weapons, they're ridiculously high, 5 minutes.

I just faced a 1.5M juggernaught who has a 1 min and 36 seconds time limit.... yeah, that's fair XD  

Even with max crystallium, I have trouble 5-starring juggernaut. The time limit doesnt make sense

Special attacks and pre-emptive?

I cant pre-empt him. the only way I've 5-starred it is to use "infiltration (sab/sab/sab) cast deprotect, deshell, Imperil and slow. Then switch to tri-disaster (rav/rav/rav) and go all out till he staggers. He'll try to "steam clean" (remove ailments) before staggering. This mustn't happen or you wont make it.

 

Immediately after staggering him, switch to ''cerberus" (com/com/com) to take him out ASAP. The launch will prevent him from ever recovering. this is the only way I ever 5-star this battle

Fortisol and Deceptisol?

Why can't he be pre-empted?

Oh, and so, .4 * Augmented 350 = 140, much better than 50.

But does Faith ever run out even with Auto-Faith?



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

Pristine20 on 21 March 2010
Carl2291 said:
dtewi said:
Carl2291 said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
So, what weapon should I be upgrading for, say, Lightning?

Is it the Gladius? Or is there a better one?

The Gladius is the best approach if you're going into a more offensive role with Lightning, but it has a too high EXP cost.

I levelled the BlazeFire Gun, which was simpler and faster to get to the required level (26) to get to Tier 2. 

BlazeEdge is the most even weapon in the game, it's attack power is only 100 behind a fully upgraded Gladius... But it's magic is 400 greater than a fully upgraded Gladius.

I think i will upgrade that on my second playthrough actually.

Light's magic sucks anyway. It's sole purpose for me is building chains.

Hope, THAT'S where the money is.

I prefer offense for Light and Fang, their accessories boost their Str both by 107 total.

Sure, she's not the best at Magic... But shes a good secondary healer, and very good when used with Ravager building the Stagger.

light actually has the 2nd best natural mag in the game. second only to Hope and equal to Vanille. Hers is just less because Hope and vanille get more from their weapons



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Wagram on 21 March 2010

Some monsters such as the adamantoise can not be back attacked even with Deceptisol.



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Pristine20 on 21 March 2010
dtewi said:
Pristine20 said:
dtewi said:
Pristine20 said:
lestatdark said:
KylieDog said:
Whats with the groups of owl like thigns in Gran Pulse having time liits of 18 minutes or so when they all killed in 5 seconds with 2 blitz attacks?

Yeah, those are heavily unbalanced. Even with mid level Tier 2 weapons, they're ridiculously high, 5 minutes.

I just faced a 1.5M juggernaught who has a 1 min and 36 seconds time limit.... yeah, that's fair XD  

Even with max crystallium, I have trouble 5-starring juggernaut. The time limit doesnt make sense

Special attacks and pre-emptive?

I cant pre-empt him. the only way I've 5-starred it is to use "infiltration (sab/sab/sab) cast deprotect, deshell, Imperil and slow. Then switch to tri-disaster (rav/rav/rav) and go all out till he staggers. He'll try to "steam clean" (remove ailments) before staggering. This mustn't happen or you wont make it.

 

Immediately after staggering him, switch to ''cerberus" (com/com/com) to take him out ASAP. The launch will prevent him from ever recovering. this is the only way I ever 5-star this battle

Fortisol and Deceptisol?

Why can't he be pre-empted?

Oh, and so, .4 * Augmented 350 = 140, much better than 50.

But does Faith ever run out even with Auto-Faith?

The auto-abilities in this game only last 40secs. They're for cleaning regular mobs fast not taking down the big dogs. I never used a deceptisol the whole game 9so Idk if it helps you preempt) and using fortisol for a regular mob just doesnt sit right with me



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

dtewi on 21 March 2010

Considering she is much better at offense than magic, I don't see much point in leveling a weapon that utilizes magic. I mean, bring in Hope or Vanille. Seriously, would you rather have more damage done DURING or BEFORE stagger? And sure, she's the third best healer or whatever, but seriously, 3 Medics gets health up so quickly Magic stat doesn't matter that much.
 



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

Pristine20 on 21 March 2010
lestatdark said:
Pristine20 said:
dtewi said:
Pristine20 said:
lestatdark said:
KylieDog said:
Whats with the groups of owl like thigns in Gran Pulse having time liits of 18 minutes or so when they all killed in 5 seconds with 2 blitz attacks?

Yeah, those are heavily unbalanced. Even with mid level Tier 2 weapons, they're ridiculously high, 5 minutes.

I just faced a 1.5M juggernaught who has a 1 min and 36 seconds time limit.... yeah, that's fair XD  

Even with max crystallium, I have trouble 5-starring juggernaut. The time limit doesnt make sense

Special attacks and pre-emptive?

I cant pre-empt him. the only way I've 5-starred it is to use "infiltration (sab/sab/sab) cast deprotect, deshell, Imperil and slow. Then switch to tri-disaster (rav/rav/rav) and go all out till he staggers. He'll try to "steam clean" (remove ailments) before staggering. This mustn't happen or you wont make it.

 

Immediately after staggering him, switch to ''cerberus" (com/com/com) to take him out ASAP. The launch will prevent him from ever recovering. this is the only way I ever 5-star this battle

Yep, can't pre-empt him, but did get one 5/5. Oddly, he got staggered when I used espionage (SAB/SYN/SAB) and after that, it was gravvy. Didn't understand why he got staggered so fast though

Honestly, sometimes it seems to me that sabs stagger enemies faster than ravagers. However, you may have had "random insta-chain" synth ability or do you use Light's lionheart?



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

dtewi on 21 March 2010
Pristine20 said:
dtewi said:
Pristine20 said:
dtewi said:
Pristine20 said:
lestatdark said:
KylieDog said:
Whats with the groups of owl like thigns in Gran Pulse having time liits of 18 minutes or so when they all killed in 5 seconds with 2 blitz attacks?

Yeah, those are heavily unbalanced. Even with mid level Tier 2 weapons, they're ridiculously high, 5 minutes.

I just faced a 1.5M juggernaught who has a 1 min and 36 seconds time limit.... yeah, that's fair XD  

Even with max crystallium, I have trouble 5-starring juggernaut. The time limit doesnt make sense

Special attacks and pre-emptive?

I cant pre-empt him. the only way I've 5-starred it is to use "infiltration (sab/sab/sab) cast deprotect, deshell, Imperil and slow. Then switch to tri-disaster (rav/rav/rav) and go all out till he staggers. He'll try to "steam clean" (remove ailments) before staggering. This mustn't happen or you wont make it.

 

Immediately after staggering him, switch to ''cerberus" (com/com/com) to take him out ASAP. The launch will prevent him from ever recovering. this is the only way I ever 5-star this battle

Fortisol and Deceptisol?

Why can't he be pre-empted?

Oh, and so, .4 * Augmented 350 = 140, much better than 50.

But does Faith ever run out even with Auto-Faith?

The auto-abilities in this game only last 40secs. They're for cleaning regular mobs fast not taking down the big dogs. I never used a deceptisol the whole game 9so Idk if it helps you preempt) and using fortisol for a regular mob just doesnt sit right with me

Fuck that. A 140 boost for 40 seconds is worse than a 50 boost for 3 minutes.

Meh, I could switch it before bigger enemies and bosses, but that's stupid.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

Pristine20 on 21 March 2010
dtewi said:
Considering she is much better at offense than magic, I don't see much point in leveling a weapon that utilizes magic. I mean, bring in Hope or Vanille. Seriously, would you rather have more damage done DURING or BEFORE stagger? And sure, she's the third best healer or whatever, but seriously, 3 Medics gets health up so quickly Magic stat doesn't matter that much.
 

light ends up with 1700 str and 1700 mag so she isnt better at either. her weapons also all have balanced stats except the 2 specialty ones (gladius for str and edged carbine for mag) so unless you specifically push her to one side, she'll stay balanced



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler