Oh, I know. It's just that I'm familiar with people across several forums that will use his words to fuel their arguments regardless of this guy's credibility on the subject.

It's been a long time since Sega understood much of anything about the market in general. Despite what the naysayers will have you believe about the Wii supposedly giving birth to and exclusively housing the phenomenon of underperforming games, the fact of the matter is that the only reason Sega went to the Wii trying to sell teh maturz is because said games on the HD consoles were constantly bombing. They got tired of bleeding money and went looking for greener pastures.

I didn't find it to be a very good game, honestly. It was simply stunning to look at, but the actual gameplay left much to be desired. If you omit the graphics, there's nothing that stands out about the game. Do you really think it would have done much better on the PS3 or 360?

You are correct. Sega isn't the company they once were. And you do bring up a very good point, Sega only retreated to the Wii because HD development was getting too costly. Still, I wanted to believe...

Well, if it's more bargain bin fodder like HotD Overkill, MadWorld and The Conduit, I can't say I mind. Two should've launched at budget prices and the other was glorified shovelware anyway.

I do have to lol at the fact that Bayonetta, Yakuza 3 and (especially) Alpha Protocol are all going to tank this Q1. I wonder if when that happens, Sega will give up making "mature" games altogether? Just please, keep this idiot (and Secret Level) away from Streets of Rage and Panzer Dragoon...

Preorders of Bayonetta look solid on both HD consoles, and although NOT my cup of tea, it has received critical praise all around mainly for what matters  GAMEPLAY. The Yakuza series has a cult following so sales won't be OMG high but there are plenty who will buy, me being one of those. Alpha Protocol I honestly don't know since I never bothered to check anything out on it. Furthermore how is it a "fact" that Bayonetta, Yakuza 3 and AP going to tank? Give me your time machine because I definitely want to see when FF vs XIII comes out and I want to play it too. MadWorld was actually fun btw, Conduit was trying to much to look like a next gen console game, something that the Wii can't do. But in the systems defense it actually produces some fun games (as gameplay IS the most important aspect), and Muramasa is the only game I would actually buy a Wii for.

Vanillaware titles are not exactly mainstream, so I think that bashing Muramasa sales is completely wrong.

MadWorld was repetitive and limiting.  It was all style, no substance.  If you want a great beat 'em up from these guys, seek out God Hand on PS2.

Conduit had nice tech, but it still looked like shit.  Art killed it, and frankly when we had fps like Halo 2, Half-Life 2 and Black last gen, Wii's capable of far, far better than The Conduit.  

As far as Sega's upcoming bombs, well call it a hunch.  I guess we'll see, but I do expect Bayonetta to sell the best among the 3 of them.  It may actually break 200k even.

Muramasa is Vanillaware's 2nd best selling game ever.  I doubt they're too worried.

Yeah, but I notice that people keep bringing Muramasa up in "hardcore/mature games doesn't sells on Wii" threads, it's annoying.

Muramasa is tracking ahead of Odin Sphere in NA, so that's good, although it's selling low enough that VGC tracking could be off the mark.

The bad news is that it sold half as well as Odin Sphere in Japan. Neither game seems to have done much in EU, though it's hard to know.

Doesn't change the fact that given the install base of the Wii and that alot of action/rpg lovers have the system it should have sold considerably more. I am not bashing Muramasa as far as quality because as I said, I would buy a Wii for that game and that game only (something Zelda will never make me do unless they do an Ocarina of Time remake). Look at Demon's Souls. How much more niche can you get than that and no euro release either with an even smaller install base to the Wii. Care to explain that one to me? You can also look at VC. Point that I am trying to make is wtf are Wii owners buying? A second copy of Wii sports? Another gimmick fitness game? You guys have some amazing titles that don't translate to sales when it easily can. Top seller is what Wii sports? lol. My "bash" is more of a frustration at seeing such quality titles go to "waste" when anyone who has a clue about gaming regardless of what system they own would pick up Muramasa in a heartbeat. Perhaps since I haven't owned a Ninty system since SNES, I am not blinded by JUST focusing on mario, metroid and zelda and that's why I could appreciate titles on YOUR system that break away from the typical franchises and that stay away from gimmicks. This isn't a bash on the Wii, on the contrary, it's a praise for being able to bring something different to the table. I also liked madworld as much as I liked Wet (both good games).