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BenKenobi88 on 20 October 2007

@Final-Fan,
I don't think a summary is automatically put on a person's profile yet...though I haven't banned anybody since this was implemented, so I wouldn't know.

As for concern no. 2, mods are expected to leave a note showing what was edited in a user's post. I'm not sure if there's an actual rule, but even if there isn't, if there's ever a mod editing posts without leaving a note saying he did, please inform us. I'd assume for the most part, a date and time wouldn't be needed if it's just helpful editing...for the moderating edits I will leave a timestamp from now on though.



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naznatips on 20 October 2007

Only ioi can answer either of those Final-Fan. Honestly that really doesn't affect me much as my primary job (to this point) as a mod has been to post news, approve new games in the game database, and clear out errors. I've been doing the latter for the past 2 days almost constantly. There are a lot more to be fixed too. I just want to help any way I can. I'm not here to ban people constantly...



Final-Fan on 20 October 2007

Yeah, the timestamp thing is pretty much my love of having every detail just in case it's important down the road ... you can always discard the unnecessary but you can't conjure up what you didn't think to write down!

At my work I see post-it notes on equipment saying (for example) "Hold this for two weeks, then it can go into stock". Well, thanks, but there's no freaking date on the note!



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Crucial on 20 October 2007

BenKenobi,

You don't have to extend me any courtesy. If I hadn't found this incredibly easy and obvious loophole, I'd never have posted. But there seemed to be a lot of people who have the same concerns that I had. So I continued to post.

You don't have to unban me. To be honest, I have no doubt that I could post on this site until the end of time without you having any say in it. Unless, god forbid, you hired an engineer to rebuild the site.

Regardless, you should address the concerns of your users. They are what make this site possible. Not you, or ioi, but the people who visit this site. You should maybe rethink your policy on bans.



Final-Fan on 20 October 2007

We should get Crucial to rebuild the site for us and fix all those nasty loopholes letting banned users in. Of course, he'd need a backdoor for himself. And after doing the site such a valuable service, we'd have to grant him modship out of courtesy.

Crucial, the Banned Mod!!



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Avalach21 on 20 October 2007
Crucial said:
BenKenobi,

You don't have to extend me any courtesy. If I hadn't found this incredibly easy and obvious loophole, I'd never have posted. But there seemed to be a lot of people who have the same concerns that I had. So I continued to post.

You don't have to unban me. To be honest, I have no doubt that I could post on this site until the end of time without you having any say in it. Unless, god forbid, you hired an engineer to rebuild the site.

Regardless, you should address the concerns of your users. They are what make this site possible. Not you, or ioi, but the people who visit this site. You should maybe rethink your policy on bans.

 it looks like we have a true patrick henry on our hands.



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BenKenobi88 on 20 October 2007
Crucial said:
BenKenobi,

You don't have to extend me any courtesy. If I hadn't found this incredibly easy and obvious loophole, I'd never have posted. But there seemed to be a lot of people who have the same concerns that I had. So I continued to post.

You don't have to unban me. To be honest, I have no doubt that I could post on this site until the end of time without you having any say in it. Unless, god forbid, you hired an engineer to rebuild the site.

Regardless, you should address the concerns of your users. They are what make this site possible. Not you, or ioi, but the people who visit this site. You should maybe rethink your policy on bans.

 The users (the unbanned ones anyway) always come first...I just addressed Final-Fan's concerns.  Regardless, I feel I'm doing my moderating job fine, and if there's problems occurring with other mods, it should be brought to the attention of a head moderator or ioi, plain and simple.



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omgwtfbbq on 20 October 2007
Final-Fan said:
I didn't want to put you on the hot seat konnichiwa but I did want to point out that respected users with huge post counts also think that this was grossly unfair. Hope you don't mind ... or get banned!
me and konnichiwa are respected users? I've never noticed =)

 



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omgwtfbbq on 20 October 2007
Final-Fan said:
Crucial said:
Oh and for the record: I've never used another alias on this site. I've only been here for a short while, but I'm not anyone else. I keep getting accused of being "Hus" or "Killzone" or something.

It's pretty much Standard Operating Procedure for at least a couple people with more WPM than wisdom to accuse anyone causing a ruckus of being an infamous banned user.

If the content is sexual or the troublemaker is female: Gballzack.

If the troublemaker is spamming PS3 propaganda, Blue3 is the old scarecrow and Hus is the newer model. Killzone is less infamous and (I think) was chronologically in the middle, or maybe a bit more recent than Hus.

Actually, you'll find that hus was around well before Blue3 and Killzone, but he got banned. In fact, I think Blue3 was accused of being hus at one point.

but yes, it is SOP to call someone hus/Blue3/gballzack when you disagree with them but have no argument to put forward. 

 



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Final-Fan on 20 October 2007
omgwtfbbq said:
Final-Fan said:
Crucial said:
Oh and for the record: I've never used another alias on this site. I've only been here for a short while, but I'm not anyone else. I keep getting accused of being "Hus" or "Killzone" or something.

It's pretty much Standard Operating Procedure for at least a couple people with more WPM than wisdom to accuse anyone causing a ruckus of being an infamous banned user.

If the content is sexual or the troublemaker is female: Gballzack.

If the troublemaker is spamming PS3 propaganda, Blue3 is the old scarecrow and Hus is the newer model. Killzone is less infamous and (I think) was chronologically in the middle, or maybe a bit more recent than Hus.

Actually, you'll find that hus was around well before Blue3 and Killzone, but he got banned. In fact, I think Blue3 was accused of being hus at one point.

but yes, it is SOP to call someone hus/Blue3/gballzack when you disagree with them but have no argument to put forward.

 


Based on the profile comments, it looks like Hus was banned near the end of August, while Blue3 was banned at the beginning of it.  Hus started earlier but was banned later.  Unless he was also banned at some earlier date, about when Blue3 popped up for the first time?  That might predate my presence on this site and certainly I wasn't involved enough that I would remember such an occurrence. 

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