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Forums - Sales Discussion - The PAL chart thread 29/09/07, why am I not surprised (but you might be).

Saiyar said:
lombard2578 said:
Saiyar said:
Swedish chart

1. Singstar Svenska hits Schlager (PS2) *
2. World in Conflict (PC)
3. NHL 08 (360)
4. The Sims 2: Jorden Runt (PC) **
5. NHL 08 (PS3)
6. World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade (PC)
7. World of Warcraft (PC)
8. Counter-Strike 1: Anthology (PC)
9. Medal of Honor: Airborne (PC)
10. Super Paper Mario (Wii)
11. Heavenly Sword (PS3)
12. Warcraft III: Frozen Throne (PC)
13. Colin McRae: Dirt (PS3)
14. Battlefield 2 (PC)
15. The Sims 2 (PC)
16. Warcraft III: Reign Of Chaos (PC)
17. Guitar Hero: Rocks the 80´s (PS2)
18. Counter-Strike Source (PC)
19. Medieval II: Total War - Kingdoms (PC)
20. Singstar Svenska hits (PS2) ***

* Eurovision song contest Singstar
** Sims around the world
*** Singstar Swedish Hits

Singing, Ice Hockey and PC dominate. Halo 3 and FIFA 08 yet to be released.


It's a good idea your thread, do to to my thread the last week:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=7733&start=0#end

But, for sweden, you give incomplete charts (see the official links i give in my thread), and more problematic, your charts are the charts for the week ending 23 september. See this thread:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=7612&start=0#end

The swedish charts are published thursday, so you can't published them tuesday morning.

For english, your charts are incomplete, and i will post next this post the complete charts, if they are available (i presume).

Edit: they are not available for the moment at the official link, so i wait, they are available.


Charttrack won't release the UK charts for a while yet. This was leaked onto another forum early. It is the same guy that usually posts the chart so I don't have any reason to doubt it's accuracy.


My problem was for the swedish charts which are for the week before, and not for the week you announce. I have no doubt, your uk charts are right, because chart track can published them monday, but for this week, they take more time to published them at their official website. Si you must wait they published them at their officilal website (because they are complete, so more interesting) to post them at vgchartz. And if you have read my thread for the pal charts, i'm not sure that a unique thread for all the pal charts is a good idea. Because the vgchartz members want to comment each charts, and it's not easy to do with a unique thread.



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This is quite a dissapoitment for Halo. I know that Fifa has bigger userbase but Xbox360 is doing in England really well. Almost as good as in USA (taking in account UK size) and Fifa isn't that good game afterall.



Fifa is to the rest of the (football crazy) world what Madden is to the US.
If Madden on all systems beat out Halo 3 would you be amazed?

It is good on the Wii, even my mother and sister love playing it.



"..just keep on trying 'till you run out of cake"

I would be amazed but Madden didn't beat Halo 3 (or rather had worse start becouse those titles weren't released at the same time).
In its release week Madden sold 1.651 mln (I counted PS2, PS3, Xbox360, Xbox, Wii, PSP and DS versions). Halo made about 2.4 mln in its first day.

And PES is much more praised than Fifa.



kamil said:
This is quite a dissapoitment for Halo. I know that Fifa has bigger userbase but Xbox360 is doing in England really well. Almost as good as in USA (taking in account UK size) and Fifa isn't that good game afterall.

Just a heads up that people living in Scotland(of which I am one), Wales & Northern Ireland get really p****d off when people refer to the UK as England. I know you didn't mean anything by it but now you know for next time.



Hus said:

Grow up and stop trolling.

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Yeah , Europe is a real soccer maniac ... I know , because I leave here :P



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Here now the complete charts from uk:

Saiyar, your original top was wrong, as we now will see.

comments from chart track:

It’s no surprise that Microsoft and Bungie are No1 in the All Formats Chart with ‘Halo 3’. ‘Halo 3’ storms in as the second fastest selling game ever in the UK, behind ‘Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas’.

The UK’s love-affair with Rockstar’s PS2 San Andreas almost 3 years ago is still the benchmark for week 1 and lifetime sales. However, the PS2 installed base back then was around 6.6m (after 4 years) – Microsoft have to make do with ‘just’ 1.4m in less than 2 years. Released on Wednesday 26th September for the first time on Microsoft’s Xbox 360 format, ‘Halo 3’ was bought by 1 in 3 Xbox 360 owners in its first week, whereas 1 in 6 Xbox owners bought ‘Halo 2’ and back in PS2’s heyday (week 44 2004) 1 in 10 PS2 owners bought ‘San Andreas’. Although ‘Halo 3’ had a headstart on San Andreas with 4 days of sales in its first week rather than San Andreas’ 2 days, the launch is still very impressive, helping to more than double the sales of Xbox 360 hardware to the highest level shown this year and even beats Nintendo’s Wii for the first time since week 13 this year.

68% of Xbox 360 software sales this week were of ‘Halo 3’ (compared to 56% of PS2 software for San Andreas’ launch), pushing Microsoft’s format to its highest sales week ever (comfortably beating week 51 2006 which was the previous highest).

‘Halo 3’ is not the only massive game to be launched this week: EA’s ‘FIFA 08’ kicks off at No2 in the All Formats Chart with the biggest opening week of any FIFA game. The PS2 version accounts for 44% of sales, the Xbox 360 version 26%, 20% on PS3 and 10% across the remaining formats (PSP, Wii, PC and DS). The Xbox 360 version of ‘FIFA 08’ is the third fastest selling Xbox 360 game in the UK, behind ‘Halo 3’ and ‘Gears of War’. 83% of all Xbox 360 software sales were for ‘Halo 3’ and ‘FIFA 08’.

There are a total of 7 new games in this week’s All Formats Top 40 released by 5 different publishers – Microsoft, EA, THQ, Sega and Activision. The next highest new entry is THQ’s ‘Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights’ at No5, then ‘Sega Rally’ at No7 and EA’s ‘Skate’ on Xbox 360 at No11. Activision’s PC-only ‘Quake Wars: Enemy Territory’ can only manage No16, while THQ’s ‘Ratatouille’ sneaks in at No39 in anticipation of the film’s UK release on October 12th.

all formats, all prices:

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015

- 1     HALO 3 BUNGIE MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
- 2     FIFA 08 EA CANADA EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
2 3     MYSIMS EA REDWOOD SHORES EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
1 4     TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 08 EA SALT LAKE EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
- 5     JUICED 2: HOT IMPORT NIGHTS JUICE GAMES THQ THQ
7 6     MORE BRAIN TRAINING FROM DR KAWASHIMA NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
- 7     SEGA RALLY SEGA RACING STUDIO SEGA SEGA
3 8     SUPER PAPER MARIO INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS NINTENDO NINTENDO
10 9     TRANSFORMERS: THE GAME TRAVELLER'S TALES ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
5 10     WII PLAY NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
- 11     SKATE EA CANADA EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
16 12     STUNTMAN: IGNITION PARADIGM ENTERTAINMENT THQ THQ
35 13     FORZA MOTORSPORT 2 MICROSOFT MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
6 14     MEDAL OF HONOR: AIRBORNE EA LA EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
9 15     DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
- 16     QUAKE WARS: ENEMY TERRITORY SPLASH DAMAGE ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
11 17     BIG BRAIN ACADEMY: WII DEGREE NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
4 18     JOHN WOO PRESENTS STRANGLEHOLD MIDWAY MIDWAY MIDWAY
17 19     COOKING MAMA OFFICE CREATE 505 GAMES 505 GAMES
25 20     SINGSTAR ROCK BALLADS LONDON STUDIO SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
20 21     NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
28 22     RESISTANCE: FALL OF MAN INSOMNIAC SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
8 23     COLIN MCRAE: DIRT CODEMASTERS CODEMASTERS CODEMASTERS
13 24     THE SIMS 2: BON VOYAGE MAXIS EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
21 25     NEED FOR SPEED: CARBON EA CANADA EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
14 26     BIOSHOCK 2K BOSTON/2K AUSTRALIA 2K GAMES TAKE 2
37 27     MOTORSTORM EVOLUTION STUDIOS SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
18 28     GRAND THEFT AUTO: VICE CITY STORIES ROCKSTAR LEEDS ROCKSTAR TAKE 2
22 29     MARIO PARTY 8 HUDSON NINTENDO NINTENDO
27 30     RESIDENT EVIL 4 CAPCOM CAPCOM CAPCOM
15 31     WORLD IN CONFLICT MASSIVE ENTERTAINMENT SIERRA VIVENDI GAMES
34 32     POKEMON DIAMOND GAME FREAK NINTENDO NINTENDO
23 33     RUGBY 08 HB STUDIOS EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
19 34     HARRY POTTER & THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX EA UK EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
24 35     PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 6 KONAMI DIGITAL ENTERTAINMENT PLATINUM KONAMI
26 36     SONIC RUSH ADVENTURE SEGA STUDIO USA SEGA SEGA
31 37     THE SIMS 2: PETS MAXIS EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
12 38     HEAVENLY SWORD NINJA THEORY SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
- 39     RATATOUILLE ASOBO STUDIO THQ THQ
36 40     CARS HELIXE THQ THQ

individual, by units:

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

TOP 40 ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE - INDIVIDUAL FORMATS (UNITS), WEEK ENDING 29 September 2007

LW

  TW     Title Format Label Publisher
- 1     HALO 3 XB360 MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
- 2     FIFA 08 PS2 EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
- 3     FIFA 08 XB360 EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
- 4     FIFA 08 PS3 EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
- 5     FIFA 08 PSP EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
4 6     MORE BRAIN TRAINING FROM DR KAWASHIMA DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
- 7     FIFA 08 WII EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
8 8     MYSIMS DS EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
5 9     MYSIMS WII EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
1 10     SUPER PAPER MARIO WII NINTENDO NINTENDO
3 11     WII PLAY WII NINTENDO NINTENDO
- 12     SKATE XB360 EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
27 13     FORZA MOTORSPORT 2 XB360 MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
- 14     JUICED 2: HOT IMPORT NIGHTS XB360 THQ THQ
6 15     DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
- 16     QUAKE WARS: ENEMY TERRITORY PC ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
12 17     BIG BRAIN ACADEMY: WII DEGREE WII NINTENDO NINTENDO
16 18     TRANSFORMERS: THE GAME PS2 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION
- 19     JUICED 2: HOT IMPORT NIGHTS PS2 THQ THQ
2 20     JOHN WOO PRESENTS STRANGLEHOLD XB360 MIDWAY MIDWAY
10 21     TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 08 WII EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
19 22     SINGSTAR ROCK BALLADS PS2 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
17 23     NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
24 24     RESISTANCE: FALL OF MAN PS3 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
14 25     THE SIMS 2: BON VOYAGE PC EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
22 26     COOKING MAMA DS 505 GAMES 505 GAMES
28 27     MOTORSTORM PS3 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
7 28     MEDAL OF HONOR: AIRBORNE XB360 EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
11 29     TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 08 PS3 EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
18 30     MARIO PARTY 8 WII NINTENDO NINTENDO
- 31     SEGA RALLY XB360 SEGA SEGA
15 32     WORLD IN CONFLICT PC SIERRA VIVENDI GAMES
- 33     SEGA RALLY PS3 SEGA SEGA
33 34     STUNTMAN: IGNITION PS2 THQ THQ
26 35     POKEMON DIAMOND DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
23 36     RUGBY 08 PS2 EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
9 37     COLIN MCRAE: DIRT PS3 CODEMASTERS CODEMASTERS
20 38     SONIC RUSH ADVENTURE DS SEGA SEGA
13 39     HEAVENLY SWORD PS3 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
- 40     COMPANY OF HEROES: OPPOSING FRONTS PC THQ THQ


Vengi said it: Football to us Europeans what that silly yankie football is to you Yanks. =P

So this is kinda like Halo 3 competing with the first week of all Madden 08 games combined. They did around 1.5 million, which is less than Halo 3, but then again the 360's portion of the market share is much smaller here in Europe.



Saiyar said:
lombard2578 said:
Saiyar said:
Swedish chart

1. Singstar Svenska hits Schlager (PS2) *
2. World in Conflict (PC)
3. NHL 08 (360)
4. The Sims 2: Jorden Runt (PC) **
5. NHL 08 (PS3)
6. World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade (PC)
7. World of Warcraft (PC)
8. Counter-Strike 1: Anthology (PC)
9. Medal of Honor: Airborne (PC)
10. Super Paper Mario (Wii)
11. Heavenly Sword (PS3)
12. Warcraft III: Frozen Throne (PC)
13. Colin McRae: Dirt (PS3)
14. Battlefield 2 (PC)
15. The Sims 2 (PC)
16. Warcraft III: Reign Of Chaos (PC)
17. Guitar Hero: Rocks the 80´s (PS2)
18. Counter-Strike Source (PC)
19. Medieval II: Total War - Kingdoms (PC)
20. Singstar Svenska hits (PS2) ***

* Eurovision song contest Singstar
** Sims around the world
*** Singstar Swedish Hits

Singing, Ice Hockey and PC dominate. Halo 3 and FIFA 08 yet to be released.


It's a good idea your thread, do to to my thread the last week:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=7733&start=0#end

But, for sweden, you give incomplete charts (see the official links i give in my thread), and more problematic, your charts are the charts for the week ending 23 september. See this thread:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=7612&start=0#end

The swedish charts are published thursday, so you can't published them tuesday morning.

For english, your charts are incomplete, and i will post next this post the complete charts, if they are available (i presume).

Edit: they are not available for the moment at the official link, so i wait, they are available.


Charttrack won't release the UK charts for a while yet. This was leaked onto another forum early. It is the same guy that usually posts the chart so I don't have any reason to doubt it's accuracy.


Finally, you are right, your top from uk was wrong, so i hope you now understand that you must wait for the official complete top from chart track himself.

It's better for the website, and for the user which see your post.



Huge increase for Forza Motorsports 2 - from 27th to 13th on the individual format charts. Shows that quite a few (but who knows how many) bought a X360 + FM2 bundle over the week, probably due to Halo and Fifa.

Insane numbers for Halo 3 - 2nd fastest selling game in the UK is very, very impressive. However, with a 33% attach ratio (around 460,000 units of Halo 3 sold in it's first week in the UK alone), sales will probably plummet REALLY fast.

Still, 460,000 sales of Halo 3 is just insane. If the US winds up with 2.5m, we're looking at 3.25m units easily for H3's first week, if not more.



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