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Akvod on 18 June 2009

I don't think any rational Sony fan believes that Sony did every single thing first, and I'm sure any rational person, Sony fan or not, don't think that Sony doesn't have a SINGLE unique idea, or at least unique twist on a idea (which is how ideas evolve and IMPROVE, due to COMPETITION).

I mean, I don't like it when companies just do a blatant rip off and sell it at a lower price, but I don't think we want to see only Nintendo using analog sticks do we? In fact, do we want only Nintendo to be able to use the D-Pad, and Right handed buttons (unless, since I wasn't born, Atari used a D-Pad before Nintendo)?

If it's a good idea, that benefits the customer, I think it only benefits the consumer for more companies to adopt it. Of course, they have to stay out of the bounds of just blatant carbon copies, and copyright infringement, but as long as they do that, power to the consumers, free market, and the process of good ideas staying and being passed down, and bad ones being replaced and phased out.



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Lightning_24 on 18 June 2009
Boutros said:
Lightning_24 said:
Boutros said:
Wow...you really know how to make smashing threads :P

huh? I don't follow.

I meant that you know how to attract people in your threads (mostly because of the shocking title). "Smashing" might not be the best word that I could have chosen though. But the idea is that: you're good at this :)


Oh, okay. thanks i guess lol I'm just afraid now everyone will get angry and defensive.



Lightning_24 on 18 June 2009
FilaBrasileiro said:
Lightning_24 said:
FilaBrasileiro said:
I predict Sony will bring out Eye Kinetic and Eye Play and Eye Sports for the PS3, some of the games/exercises will require the PS Wand....there's already Eye Pet confirmed this year. They'll either make Eye Kinetic more like Wii Fit or they'll create another one to mimic either. I predict all this crap coming out by the end of 2010 at the latest.


That would be so cool. I hope they do that because they need to do it right. I just think they won't market it well, but maybe this time they will. It's like they had a goldmine on their hands but they did nothing with it until someone else did it and now it looks like they copied. I'm not saying Sony never copies though. Everyone copies.

Whether they'll correctly market it or not is a whole other story, but with the buzz around Natal and with the success of Wii Fit, Wii Play, Wii Sports, etc and with SCEE finally releasing their first major PS Eye game (EoJ was the first but made by SCEJ), I am pretty confident in my predictions that by the end of 2010 we'll see all this shit.

 


I'll hold you to that, because when it doesn't happen, we all know how Sony is, I'll come knocking. lol



izaaz101 on 18 June 2009
axumblade said:
izaaz101 said:

False. Motion control was already out on the PC over a decade ago. The Sidewinder Freestyle Pro. Does the design remind anyone else of something?

Pssh. How long have you been on VGChartz? you know that PC gaming doesn't count unless ssj or shio are in the thread! 

Ironically my mind shifted to the N64 controller only instead of the scroll, it had the analog stick. lol Of course I know it looks like the Ps3 prototype. lol.

Ah right. I forgot about that particular stipulation. I apologize.

I can sort of see how your mind went to the N64 trident, but yeah the boomerang was in my mind when I wrote that, lol.



Lightning_24 on 18 June 2009
izaaz101 said:
axumblade said:
izaaz101 said:

False. Motion control was already out on the PC over a decade ago. The Sidewinder Freestyle Pro. Does the design remind anyone else of something?

Pssh. How long have you been on VGChartz? you know that PC gaming doesn't count unless ssj or shio are in the thread! 

Ironically my mind shifted to the N64 controller only instead of the scroll, it had the analog stick. lol Of course I know it looks like the Ps3 prototype. lol.

Ah right. I forgot about that particular stipulation. I apologize.

I can sort of see how your mind went to the N64 trident, but yeah the boomerang was in my mind when I wrote that, lol.

I think the boomerang was awesome i would have bought it. Just think when you get mad and throw it, it will come back to you lol



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S.T.A.G.E. on 18 June 2009
Lightning_24 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Sony copies Nintendo in every way imaginable and gets all the credit from Sony fanboys who salivate for Sony's former dominance. They can't moneyhat Nintendo to death and out perform them with Microsoft standing in their way.


Yeah, but Sony did do a lot with motion first with their Eye Toy. Only Wii turned it into a controller and did a better job with it. But see the guys were working on the motion controller back in 2005 or 06. I'm not saying they didn't get the idea from somewhere but that's pretty far back.


The eyetoy was a broken product. My friend had it, but it was such a piece of shit that we immediately stopped using it. When got a Wii, we started playing again.



Akvod on 18 June 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Lightning_24 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Sony copies Nintendo in every way imaginable and gets all the credit from Sony fanboys who salivate for Sony's former dominance. They can't moneyhat Nintendo to death and out perform them with Microsoft standing in their way.


Yeah, but Sony did do a lot with motion first with their Eye Toy. Only Wii turned it into a controller and did a better job with it. But see the guys were working on the motion controller back in 2005 or 06. I'm not saying they didn't get the idea from somewhere but that's pretty far back.


The eyetoy was a broken product. My friend had it, but it was such a piece of shit that we immediately stopped using it. When got a Wii, we started playing again.

Why was it a piece of shit? Was it the lack of good software/games, or the eye toy itself? Is there 2 generations of the eye toy?



PullusPardus on 18 June 2009
izaaz101 said:
Lightning_24 said:
puffy said:
It seems like Sony does everything first? Are you kidding?

Tell me where these things came from: D-Pad, Shoulder buttons, Analog Triggers, Diamond set-up for the four face buttons(SNES in case you were wondering), rumble, analog stick..

They're all mainstays of the Sony Playstation Controller and they're all copied from previous efforts. Even the new Playstation Motion is a rip off of the Wii Remote as it just reverses the light source and camera. This generation the major new innovations have been:

- split controller, each being motion sensitive
- controller speaker
- IR pointer

And now the others follow once again. Although Microsoft seem to be innovating, Sony are copying almost directly. No matter how long they've been working on this, it's just going to be seen a a Wii ripoff, they aren't bringing anything new to the table at all

You missunderstand, i'm talking about motion control. They actually had a good thing with the Eye Toy but they didn't market it well and it just got left behind while now MS is making Natal.

And as it was shown others were working on the motion before the Wii. Sony wasn't working on it but some guys were.

Besides there's no need to get all crazy.

False. Motion control was already out on the PC over a decade ago. The Sidewinder Freestyle Pro. Does the design remind anyone else of something?

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izaaz101 on 18 June 2009
Akvod said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Lightning_24 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Sony copies Nintendo in every way imaginable and gets all the credit from Sony fanboys who salivate for Sony's former dominance. They can't moneyhat Nintendo to death and out perform them with Microsoft standing in their way.


Yeah, but Sony did do a lot with motion first with their Eye Toy. Only Wii turned it into a controller and did a better job with it. But see the guys were working on the motion controller back in 2005 or 06. I'm not saying they didn't get the idea from somewhere but that's pretty far back.


The eyetoy was a broken product. My friend had it, but it was such a piece of shit that we immediately stopped using it. When got a Wii, we started playing again.

Why was it a piece of shit? Was it the lack of good software/games, or the eye toy itself? Is there 2 generations of the eye toy?

Unless I'm mistaken, there's the Eye Toy (PS2) and the PSEye (PS3).



Boutros on 18 June 2009
Lightning_24 said:
Boutros said:
Lightning_24 said:
Boutros said:
Wow...you really know how to make smashing threads :P

huh? I don't follow.

I meant that you know how to attract people in your threads (mostly because of the shocking title). "Smashing" might not be the best word that I could have chosen though. But the idea is that: you're good at this :)


Oh, okay. thanks i guess lol I'm just afraid now everyone will get angry and defensive.

Yeah some people just go "crazy" about this.

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