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Xxain on 21 May 2009
disolitude said:
Halo 3 is my game of this geneneration thus far. And only game this gen that goes in to my top 10 games I've ever played. Its one of the few HD console games that made sure group play and high fun factor are always present...and not really put much emphasis on things like draw distance, polygon counts in models and amazing textrures...sacrificing goodies like split screen and coop.

I have not played killzone 2 much but from what Ive seen and played, it will never have the charisma, universal appeal and sheer fun factor Halo 3 does.

Don't get me wrong, Killzone 2 is one bad ass shooter...but it is more comparable to COD4 than halo 3. There is nothing else like Halo 3 available this gen IMO...other than maybe L4D which is similarly unique in its own way.

Now as far as sales, I dont think higher selling games always represent better quality games...but in this case, I agree with this logic.

your last sentenced killed all credibility in your post....Shadow the Hedgehog is one of the highest selling GC games( I think top 5, but definitely top 10)

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disolitude on 21 May 2009
Xxain said:
disolitude said:
Halo 3 is my game of this geneneration thus far. And only game this gen that goes in to my top 10 games I've ever played. Its one of the few HD console games that made sure group play and high fun factor are always present...and not really put much emphasis on things like draw distance, polygon counts in models and amazing textrures...sacrificing goodies like split screen and coop.

I have not played killzone 2 much but from what Ive seen and played, it will never have the charisma, universal appeal and sheer fun factor Halo 3 does.

Don't get me wrong, Killzone 2 is one bad ass shooter...but it is more comparable to COD4 than halo 3. There is nothing else like Halo 3 available this gen IMO...other than maybe L4D which is similarly unique in its own way.

Now as far as sales, I dont think higher selling games always represent better quality games...but in this case, I agree with this logic.

 

your last sentenced killed all credibility in your post....Shadow the Hedgehog is one of the highest selling GC games( I think top 5, but definitely top 10)

How did it kill my credibility? You need to learn to read and then comprehend what people are saying. I said that higher sales don't mean better game...but that in this case, that logic is actually correct. Case of Killzone 2 vs Halo 3...

Not that Halo 3 is 10 times better than killzone 2 as sales would indicate or anything...but it does appear to be a more complete experience

 



Xxain on 21 May 2009
disolitude said:
Xxain said:
disolitude said:
Halo 3 is my game of this geneneration thus far. And only game this gen that goes in to my top 10 games I've ever played. Its one of the few HD console games that made sure group play and high fun factor are always present...and not really put much emphasis on things like draw distance, polygon counts in models and amazing textrures...sacrificing goodies like split screen and coop.

I have not played killzone 2 much but from what Ive seen and played, it will never have the charisma, universal appeal and sheer fun factor Halo 3 does.

Don't get me wrong, Killzone 2 is one bad ass shooter...but it is more comparable to COD4 than halo 3. There is nothing else like Halo 3 available this gen IMO...other than maybe L4D which is similarly unique in its own way.

Now as far as sales, I dont think higher selling games always represent better quality games...but in this case, I agree with this logic.

 

your last sentenced killed all credibility in your post....Shadow the Hedgehog is one of the highest selling GC games( I think top 5, but definitely top 10)

How did it kill my credibility? You need to learn to read and then comprehend what people are saying. I said that higher sales don't mean better game...but that in this case, that logic is actually correct. Case of Killzone 2 vs Halo 3...

Not that Halo 3 is 10 times better than killzone 2 as sales would indicate...

 


oops your right, Im sorry..didnt see "dont"

disolitude on 21 May 2009

@Xxain

off topic but Shadow the hedgehog sold that well on GC?
I guess this is where sega learned they can poo in a dvd case and stick a sonic character on the cover and it will turn to gold. Atleast they tried with sonic unleashed....



Pristine20 on 21 May 2009
disolitude said:
Halo 3 is my game of this geneneration thus far. And only game this gen that goes in to my top 10 games I've ever played. Its one of the few HD console games that made sure group play and high fun factor are always present...and not really put much emphasis on things like draw distance, polygon counts in models and amazing textrures...sacrificing goodies like split screen and coop.

I have not played killzone 2 much but from what Ive seen and played, it will never have the charisma, universal appeal and sheer fun factor Halo 3 does.

Don't get me wrong, Killzone 2 is one bad ass shooter...but it is more comparable to COD4 than halo 3. There is nothing else like Halo 3 available this gen IMO...other than maybe L4D which is similarly unique in its own way.

Now as far as sales, I dont think higher selling games always represent better quality games...but in this case, I agree with this logic.

you contradict yourself mate.

As far as I'm concerned kz2>>cod4>>>>>>halo 3. This isn't fanboyism. It took me 12 months to play cod4 online for 14 days. I've already played kz2 online for 13 days. KZ2's clan system is just excellent!

As for halo 3, I tried and tried to enjoy both halo 1,2 and 3 (I have an xbox and I live in the US, you can be sure that I have access to multiple 360s) but just never got the appeal of the series.

I went back to play cod4 recently and it just didn't feel as good anymore...hopefully MW2 has an ace up its sleeve.

Frankly, a smaller community has it's benefits. Those of us who played lots of sc4 online had that kind of bond. I'm starting to see recurring PSNs in KZ2, we'll see how it plays out.

 

 

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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Xxain on 21 May 2009
disolitude said:
@Xxain

off topic but Shadow the hedgehog sold that well on GC?
I guess this is where sega learned they can poo in a dvd case and stick a sonic character on the cover and it will turn to gold. Atleast they tried with sonic unleashed....

yea Shadow was one of the Highest selling(possibly the highest) 3rd party games for the GC

disolitude on 21 May 2009
Pristine20 said:
disolitude said:
Halo 3 is my game of this geneneration thus far. And only game this gen that goes in to my top 10 games I've ever played. Its one of the few HD console games that made sure group play and high fun factor are always present...and not really put much emphasis on things like draw distance, polygon counts in models and amazing textrures...sacrificing goodies like split screen and coop.

I have not played killzone 2 much but from what Ive seen and played, it will never have the charisma, universal appeal and sheer fun factor Halo 3 does.

Don't get me wrong, Killzone 2 is one bad ass shooter...but it is more comparable to COD4 than halo 3. There is nothing else like Halo 3 available this gen IMO...other than maybe L4D which is similarly unique in its own way.

Now as far as sales, I dont think higher selling games always represent better quality games...but in this case, I agree with this logic.

you contradict yourself mate.

As far as I'm concerned kz2>>cod4>>>>>>halo 3. This isn't fanboyism. It took me 12 months to play cod4 online for 14 days. I've already played kz2 online for 13 days. KZ2's clan system is just excellent!

As for halo 3, I tried and tried to enjoy both halo 1,2 and 3 (I had and xbox and I live in the US, you can be sure that I have access to multiple 360s) but just never got the appeal of the series.

I went back to play cod4 recently and it just didn't feel as good anymore...hopefully MW2 has an ace up its sleeve.

Frankly, a smaller community has it's benefits. Those of us who played lots of sc4 online had that kind of bond. I'm starting to see recurring PSN in KZ2, we'll see how it plays out.

While obviously there are different tastes for gamers...including FPS types...one really cant deny Halo 3 has way more variety than any other non PC FPS game.

To me group play is everything. I play it with freinds on a daily basis and we have so many possibilities that it takes us 2 months to play everything and after that the stuff we played earlier is fresh again.

One week we will say "lets hunt for skulls and play on legendary"...after that we will do double XP weekend games...then we will be in to MLG rules and games for a week or 2 (one shot kills)...then back to regular games...then when we are bored of matchmaking we will do some forge and make our own maps and have crazy 8 freinds death matches (i find these most fun lately)...and then new maps come from bungie and its back to regular games and new forge maps ideas. The cycle is endless...

This halo 3 cycle has not stopped for a year and 8 months now...and looks to keep going with ODST and new maps.



Pristine20 on 21 May 2009
disolitude said:
Pristine20 said:
disolitude said:
Halo 3 is my game of this geneneration thus far. And only game this gen that goes in to my top 10 games I've ever played. Its one of the few HD console games that made sure group play and high fun factor are always present...and not really put much emphasis on things like draw distance, polygon counts in models and amazing textrures...sacrificing goodies like split screen and coop.

I have not played killzone 2 much but from what Ive seen and played, it will never have the charisma, universal appeal and sheer fun factor Halo 3 does.

Don't get me wrong, Killzone 2 is one bad ass shooter...but it is more comparable to COD4 than halo 3. There is nothing else like Halo 3 available this gen IMO...other than maybe L4D which is similarly unique in its own way.

Now as far as sales, I dont think higher selling games always represent better quality games...but in this case, I agree with this logic.

you contradict yourself mate.

As far as I'm concerned kz2>>cod4>>>>>>halo 3. This isn't fanboyism. It took me 12 months to play cod4 online for 14 days. I've already played kz2 online for 13 days. KZ2's clan system is just excellent!

As for halo 3, I tried and tried to enjoy both halo 1,2 and 3 (I had and xbox and I live in the US, you can be sure that I have access to multiple 360s) but just never got the appeal of the series.

I went back to play cod4 recently and it just didn't feel as good anymore...hopefully MW2 has an ace up its sleeve.

Frankly, a smaller community has it's benefits. Those of us who played lots of sc4 online had that kind of bond. I'm starting to see recurring PSN in KZ2, we'll see how it plays out.

While obviously there are different tastes for gamers...including FPS types...one really cant deny Halo 3 has way more variety than any other non PC FPS game.

To me group play is everything. I play it with freinds on a daily basis and we have so many possibilities that it takes us 2 months to play everything and after that the stuff we played earlier is fresh again.

One week we will say "lets hunt for skulls and play on legendary"...after that we will do double XP weekend games...then we will be in to MLG rules and games for a week or 2 (one shot kills)...then back to regular games...then when we are bored of matchmaking we will do some forge and make our own maps and have crazy 8 freinds death matches (i find these most fun lately)...and then new maps come from bungie and its back to regular games and new forge maps ideas. The cycle is endless...

This halo 3 cycle has not stopped for a year and 8 months now...and looks to keep going with ODST and new maps.

Well, if one doesn't enjoy the gameplay, nothing else matters. I have to say that the clan system in kz2 feels like an addictive sport...thats one of the huge pluses in the game.

I won't be stupid enough to say halo 3 isn't a great game. It probably is and it has done extremely well on the sales charts. However, that doesn't make it the best fps game in everyone's eyes because as you have acknowleged, tastes differ. Hell, one of my friends thinks Battlefield : Bad Company is the best fps and many would disagree too but it's what he has fun playing which is what matters.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

disolitude on 21 May 2009

@Pristine20

I think I agree with you in saying that competitive aspect of halo is not really as good as COD (and I assume KZ2)...like I really dont care what my rank is or if I gain much XP. Its more about..."will I team kill this match...will I teabag enough...will I get an overkill (4 kills in 4 seconds)...will I trash talk after the match if we win...will I nail that sticky or jump with the Warthog jeep "...etc.

So if you are in to competitive gamplay and care about ranking up...Halo 3 may not be as good as COD4(or KZ2).



yo_john117 on 21 May 2009

I'm proud of halo 3