COD4 is the best FPS to grace the world, in my opinion at least, but halo 3 takes a close 2nd place, and killzone 2 is just miles behind both.

well, the clan system in kz2 is certainly very competitive. the valor system makes it that way. Most people who play kz2 also seem to care a lot about xp gained and their stats (cod4 to a much lesser extent) but that may be because everyone who bought the game is extremely hardcore while the rest sent hate mail to Guerilla complaining that the game wasn't Zone of Duty 4.

I'm pretty sure there are competitive aspects to Halo 3 as well. Don't they even have national championships for Halo? Yiou just happen to be a more casual player. With 10 million sold, there are bound to be tons of casuals.

Aslo, there is a misconception that kz2 is similar to cod4. as someone who's extensively played both, I'd be the first to tell you that they are very very different. I don't know why people think the games are similar.

I disagree, cod4 is overrated to me, and Killzone 2 is a better game than cod4 can ever be to my opinion.

well, the clan system in kz2 is certainly very competitive. the valor system makes it that way. Most people who play kz2 also seem to care a lot about xp gained and their stats (cod4 to a much lesser extent) but that may be because everyone who bought the game is extremely hardcore while the rest sent hate mail to Guerilla complaining that the game wasn't Zone of Duty 4.

I'm pretty sure there are competitive aspects to Halo 3 as well. Don't they even have national championships for Halo? Yiou just happen to be a more casual player. With 10 million sold, there are bound to be tons of casuals.

Aslo, there is a misconception that kz2 is similar to cod4. as someone who's extensively played both, I'd be the first to tell you that they are very very different. I don't know why people think the games are similar.

you contradict yourself mate.

As far as I'm concerned kz2>>cod4>>>>>>halo 3. This isn't fanboyism. It took me 12 months to play cod4 online for 14 days. I've already played kz2 online for 13 days. KZ2's clan system is just excellent!

As for halo 3, I tried and tried to enjoy both halo 1,2 and 3 (I have an xbox and I live in the US, you can be sure that I have access to multiple 360s) but just never got the appeal of the series.

I went back to play cod4 recently and it just didn't feel as good anymore...hopefully MW2 has an ace up its sleeve.

Frankly, a smaller community has it's benefits. Those of us who played lots of sc4 online had that kind of bond. I'm starting to see recurring PSNs in KZ2, we'll see how it plays out.

I know, when KZ2 came out and matched the visuals in the E3 movie and turned out to be a great game, they stopped saying that KZ2 would suck and started saying that because it didn't sell like Halo, Xbox's biggest series, that it was a failure.  It's pathetic.  They're likely pissed because KZ2 looks so much better than Halo.  ^^ observe Zizzla obstinately going right back to sales.  If people want to talk quality, they can do that, and sales do not bear on that discussion.

News flash all, marketing for Halo > marketing for KZ.  MS made Halo its flagship so it damn well better sell.  KZ is nothing like that for Sony.

This needs to be quoted again.

Anyways and back on topic, it's just like football supporters, just nerdier. The referee always favors the other team, rivals are sworn enemies, the club is always right and always has a chance at winning at the start of the league, etc etc. Then things eventually get derailed, alcohol is added to the mix and finally there's property destruction (internet trolling).