LOL the media, did you believe the media when they told you Iraq had WMD ?

 http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&align=1

try to wrap you mind around the fact that if you align launces 360/PS3 are even with the differance being 360 had no competition for a year and launched at HALF the price of the PS3!

 How is that so hard to understand ?

Hus has a point, the psp is going to sell 35million by year's end not by 2012, simple the FF VII psp will sell out in japan, and the D VADER/SPIDERMAN psp's will sell out in europe and North america, also I believe that alot of the normal psp owners might transition to the slim psp, just like most of the old ds owners.

@selnor,

UK is not the whole europe
NA is not whoe world

Media were bad about PS3 between E32006-E3 2007
Now, since E3 2007, wind has turned.
it is time to sold your Xbox360 and get a new PS3
(well, before try to play Bioshock , the game of the year)
try to hurry before it brokes ^^

There are lots of assumptions made here on both sides by fanboys. Someone who has the time can make a reasonable guess as to what it will take for the PS3 to overtake the 360 in total worldwide sales with just some time and math calculations. I'm not going to but someone here I'm sure has more time than me so knock yourself out.

Points to consider:

1)360 will very likely outsell the PS3 in the U.S. rather significantly through the end of the year due to price cut and a handful of major exclusives.
2)360 isn't going to increase by any real margin in Japan any time soon (or probably ever)
3)The PS3, unlike what everyone says, isn't killing off the 360 in Europe. It had a great launch, but that has to be discounted and trends need to be factored in.
4)Yes, the PS3 is going to get cheaper but so is the 360. You can't keep saying that once the PS3 gets cheap enough it is going to "own"
5)Contrary to popular belief that the next gen HD movie format is won, it isn't. There are announcements every day that swing it both ways. It really doesn't matter in the end, though, as the majority of people buy their systems to play games. (The Joe Six Packs of the World and not the early adopter hardcore).

So... take recent sales histories, take out your fanboy beliefs, project forward a bit and it is going to come down to, in my opinion, U.S. beating PS3 for the forseeable future, Europe split *fairly* close over time, and Japan solidly behind the PS3. How long will it take, then?  Just for fun, a monthly moving average (say 3, and 6 month MAs) projected forward would be interesting.  Not scientific, but interesting none-the less.

 Europe flip fairly even, tell me what does the 360 have in 08 to combat GranTurismo5 in Europe ?  GTA is multi so in a "even" Europe the tag team of GTA and GT is a monster to beat.

Point to conside r- Even now PS3 is outselling the 360 in Germany, Italy and Spain.  Thats a 185million market, half of western that seems to be for whatever reason not very 360 friendly.

Fact is at half the price and with a Euro froendly game like Forza2 out already the 360 should be having no trouble outselling the PS3 in every single European market.

Personally I think it's only a matter of time before the PS3 will surprass the 360. The real challenge for the 360 will be Europe where Sony dominated more the last few generations than any other market. I don't see other than the UK the 360 being very successful there. Sony is the only one with the name brand that could take some of the momentum away from Nintendo down the road. In Japan that's probably an automatic 8 to 10 million PS3 advantage at the very minimum.

The US is the 360's best market by far. I'd lean toward the 360 beating the PS3 here with our love for shooters and all, but even that's no lock. Anyway the 360's time is now. The PS3's time with will be 2008 and 2009. None of us has a crystal ball that will tell us what will happen, but my gut says the 360 has to beat the PS3 by 10 million just in the NA market to win worldwide sales. I think even many optomistic 360 fanboys would be hesitant to predict that.

we know it is only speculations

as the VGChartz numbers are only estimations

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(09/09/07, 17:42) @selnor,

UK is not the whole europe
NA is not whoe world

Media were bad about PS3 between E32006-E3 2007
Now, since E3 2007, wind has turned.
it is time to sold your Xbox360 and get a new PS3
(well, before try to play Bioshock , the game of the year)
try to hurry before it brokes ^^



No games I want on PS3. FFXIII? Ill take Mistwalker thanks. fresh and new. GTA IV downloadable content only on LIVE.
I bought my 360 december 2005. never had a problem.

Eh... comparing 360 and PS3 sales is honestly... stupid.

The 360's been out longer. It's not like the 360 and PS3 are food that cosntantly need to be replenished. If they came out about the same time sure...

Hoever you only need 1,(cue RROD joke) therefore sales should logically decrease.

It makes more sense to align the launches. Which I would do but something is wrong with the charts for me.

 You were doing fine with your first sentence, Hus, but then your fanboy nature got the better of you.  You are (again) betting on one game (GT5) to be the deciding factor in this race.  This has proven to be a bad assumption on both sides repeatedly.  Don't look to a few regions in Europe.  Look at Europe as a whole and add up the sales.  There will always be spots that play to one side or the other.