http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7819188.stm

Yeah, well, hate to be a pessimist, but Hamas said that they reject the cease fire outright and will continue their terrorism unabated, so I don't put much hope in it.

Even if Israel does stop the assault against terrorist hideouts, all it will do is give Hamas more time to reposition & regroup their people and continue the war later.

So... this ceasefire is about as useless as all the others since 1948. Sounds pleasing to the ears, but carries no substance as usual.

Hamas: we weren't consulted with about this, no ceasefire

Israel: We will continue and do whatever it takes to make the southern part of the country safe

No one to sign ceasefires with? good. Maybe now the UN won't bother with this BS and let us finish our work there. Otherwise everyone just died in vain.

Why would Hamas sign it?
Does it force Israel to free Gaza from the prison? No.
Does it force Israel to allow food, fuel, water, electricity, in/out? No.

Hamas has a legitimate reason to continue its military attacks. Israel's actions upon the Gazan people are inhumane and reminiscent of the same horrible actions Europeans/Russians once did to Jewish people.

All were had... but fuel supplies were limited as far as I remember.

And we have a legitimate reason to fight them... if they think they are gonna get out of their situation by killing our civilians, they are dead wrong.

1) Gaza was under a 100% embargo during the last ceasefire. That meant no food/electricty/water/anything coming in. If it were not already there, it wasn't getting there.

2) If Israel thinks they are going to get somekind of peace by killing Arab civilians they are *dead* wrong.

So now we are deliberately killing civilians.

But then again, you're someone who thinks there can be peace here. Therefore, I'm not even gonna argue.

As I pointed out when discussing with Comrade. both sides believe that 100% of the other is out only to kill off the other.

And yes, I do believe that just as Hamas could careless who gets killed by their rockets, so to does the IDF and its leadership.

Just look at its actions with UN buildings, trucks, and movements during this conflict to see that.

Uh, no.  If the IDF (actually, IAF) didn't care who they killed, they'd cluster bomb Gaza into the stone age.  Israel does take measures to try and prevent civilian casualties.  But if Hamas leaders are going to hide behind women and children, then you can't eliminate the possibility of such casualties.  Like I've show time and time again, Hamas leadership admits that they kid behind civilians for the purpose of those civilians dying. 

And as for the UN buildings, etc, Hamas was using those installations as bases of terror, and the UN didn nothing to prevent this (nor have they since 1967).  If the UN will not prevent terrorism from being commited in their vehicles and buildings, then they'll just have to accept that those things are in risk of destruction.  The UN is joke anyway, everyone knows that.  All talk, no action.

A) When Israel bombs/artilleries buildings where it is absolutely known a large number of civilians are hiding from the war, regardless if there are enemy combatants standing on top, you can only conclude that they don't care about civilian deaths. Its exactly the samething as Hamas shooting missiles into Israel. Both are inherently wrong and both shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Another point, about 6 days ago Israel bombed the ish out of an apartment bloc. UN and Red Cross, as usual, asked permission to access the area for the dead/injured. Israel refused for over 4 days. By the time they got in there more had died whom could probably have been helped and there were children, so starved of water/food that they couldn't even stand next to their dead mother's bodies. It isn't a mass region, Israel knew there were people there, civilians there needing help, yet they didn't allow them in. For what possibly purpose beyond letting them die/starve etc, would Israel not allow them in?

B) True there have been times Hamas has used these buildings/vehicles as transports. But, when UN specifically says this specific vehicle is delivering food DO NOT ATTACK I would think Israel could be nearly positive that one isn't a target. Yet they still shot and killed the driver and passenger and gravely wounded a 3rd person. Again, complete lack of care for civilian life.

Granted UN is a joke. But, that is partically caused by all security members taking advantage of their veto powers.