Something radically different, although I’m not sure what. None of their first party titles really appealed to me this gen and I want that to change
Something radically different, although I’m not sure what. None of their first party titles really appealed to me this gen and I want that to change
TLOU2 GOW HZD 2
REQUIESCAT IN PACE
I Hate REMASTERS
I Hate PLAYSTATION PLUS
I know it's a very unpopular opinion, but I'd love them to support PSVR even more with big budget titles, also if they keep the first party output as it is with games like god of war, ratchet and clank, infamous, uncharted, etc, I'd be more than happy
The_Liquid_Laser said:
More like a gradual downward slope. Generally when people try to exaggerate/change the argument I am making it shows they are afraid I have a valid point.
This is one these posts that shows that you aren't really paying attention. I now see why you are disagreeing with me. Here are some things you need to know before we continue this discussion. 1) In Japan PS4 sales are neck-and-neck with PS3 sales. The PS4 is far more successful worldwide, but can't make a dent in Japan. Sony is losing Japan. They've also ceded the handheld market which means they've lost even more influence in Japan. 2) The Switch has been tracking far ahead of the 3DS worldwide. In Japan Switch is tracking behind the 3DS, but it is rapidly gaining ground. 3DS cut it's price during the first year, which makes it front loaded. Switch has not yet cut it's price and is gaining ground. It's going to outsell the 3DS in Japan as well as worldwide. 3) The Japanese audience is, in fact, concentrated on Japanese software. The only Western title that they really like is Minecraft. That is the only Western title where it's popularity in Japan is comparable to its popularity in the West. Maybe you are thinking that Call of Duty topped the charts there for 1 week? That is not terribly great compared to how CoD does everywhere else. The latest chart has it at 4th place in it's second week. Again, very pathetic by CoD standards. Most likely CoD will not be in the top 10 for annual sales in Japan. Every other Western title will do worse (except Minecraft). What the Japanese buy is 95%+ Japanese software. 4) Most importantly, actions have consequences. Life is not a random unpredictable mess. Sony can't alienate Japan and be friendly to Japan at the same time. They cannot have their cake and eat it too. Perhaps you think ending their handheld line will have no effect? It will. Give it time. They just stopped making the Vita this year. Wait a couple of years and you will see an effect. In the 80's Nintendo had very strict policies for 3rd party companies. They did this both to rebuild the gaming market and also to maintain dominance. It seemed like a great strategy at the time and it made the NES the most dominant console in history. However, their actions had consequences. They gradually lost influence to 3rd parties, first to Sega, and then to Sony to a much greater extent. And even to this day Nintendo has a reputation of being unfriendly to 3rd party companies. Their actions had long standing consequences. Sony is now trying a similar thing. They see that there are much greater profits to be had in the West, so they are turning their back on Japan. This will have long standing consequences. First they alienate the Japanese customers and consequently they alienate the Japanese devs. Actions have consequences. If Sony stops caring about Japan, then Japan will stop caring about Sony. That includes developers too. |
Sorry, but I'm trying to understand dropping support for Japanese gamers when you had DQ games, MHW, a ton of musao games, the Atelier series, Persona, Final Fantasy World, Earth Defence Force, Yakuza games, Judgement, Nier Automata, Bloodborne to name a few.
They still invest in Japanese developers and have their own Japan studio along with PD. In fact it could be argued that Sony has more variety of first and third party games on their console than Nintendo.
The only change I see is in censorship, but I think there is a greater argument in Japan trending more towards handheld gaming as supposed to home console gaming and this resulting is a drop off sales for Sony as supposed to not supporting Japanese gamers.
I want to see some new platformers,only Nintendo delivers on that one.
Fei-Hung said:
Sorry, but I'm trying to understand dropping support for Japanese gamers when you had DQ games, MHW, a ton of musao games, the Atelier series, Persona, Final Fantasy World, Earth Defence Force, Yakuza games, Judgement, Nier Automata, Bloodborne to name a few. They still invest in Japanese developers and have their own Japan studio along with PD. In fact it could be argued that Sony has more variety of first and third party games on their console than Nintendo. The only change I see is in censorship, but I think there is a greater argument in Japan trending more towards handheld gaming as supposed to home console gaming and this resulting is a drop off sales for Sony as supposed to not supporting Japanese gamers. |
This post is somewhat out of context (and I made it about a month ago). Let me refer you to my original post which is really about Sony first party software.
The_Liquid_Laser said: In the past the first party stuff that I have really liked from Sony has come from their Japanese studios: Ico, Shadow of Colossus, Legend of Dragoon, Okage, Patapon, etc.... I would like to see more from the Japanese side of Sony. These are the types of games that I like. On top of that, I think it is a mistake for Sony to be so Western focused. They are basically inviting Nintendo to have free reign over Japan. Obviously this is not as big of a market as NA or Europe. However, the Japanese make a crapton of games. In giving Japan over to Nintendo, they are kind of just giving most of the Japanese studios to Nintendo as well. After a while these Japanese devs are going to notice that their core customers only play Nintendo, and just keep making games for Nintendo out of habit. That is a whole lot of 3rd party games to just hand over to your main competition. I just don't think that is smart business. So, anyway, I would like to see more Japanese style first party games from Sony. Those are the games I like and it would be smart business for them too. |
curl-6 bet me that PS5 + X|S sales would reach 56m before year end 2023 and he was right.
My Bet With curl-6
My Threads:
Master Thread, Game of the Year/Decade
Switch Will Be #1 All Time
Zelda Will Outsell Mario (Achieved)
How Much Will MH Rise sell?
My Bet With Metallox
I think its time to bring back Blasto and Jet Moto.
Recently Completed:
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I agree with OP. For me they can keep doing mostly as now.
Release some new IPs, contract 3rd party to remake/remaster some PS1/PS2 titles not released yet and perhaps even launch a new title for some of them (Like Syphon Filter).
And sure, open more studios and increase teams size and quantity (I would love PD to have more staff and release a GT in the first year of PS5 and one near the end).
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
Immersiveunreality said: I want to see some new platformers,only Nintendo delivers on that one. |
Sony released the best platformers this gen with Knack and Astrobot =p
And they also put Ratchet and Clank.
Now without jokes yes they could release a new IP, although platformers aren't that popular on PS.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."