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Nintendo Switch Lite Officially Revealed - $199, September 20th, Dedicated Handheld

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Barkley said:
colafitte said:

I wonder how NPD and VGC will count the sales of this version because Switch Lite is defitively 100% a handheld console.

It's still a Switch. The Vita TV sales were combined with the Vita.

Yeah, that was weird too, but Vita TV was so uneventful that nobody cared. With Switch LITE there will be news about sales each month...There's going to be some fired discussions in forums about it....



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colafitte said:
Barkley said:

It's still a Switch. The Vita TV sales were combined with the Vita.

Yeah, that was weird too, but Vita TV was so uneventful that nobody cared. With Switch LITE there will be news about sales each month...There's going to be some fired discussions in forums about it....

I don't think so. I'd be surprised if there's many people at all that think the Switch Lites sales should be counted seperate to the Switch. They'd be the vast minority on here anyway.



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Barkley said:
JRPGfan said:

I think Nintendo should tbh.
Greed for profits on hardware isnt worth the potential loss from software + services.

Nintendo should be chaseing that Wii effect, with the 99$ console price.
Todays 149$ is probably akin to that of the 99$ Wii back then.

Plus handhelds are more price sensetive than home consoles...... If I was nintendo Id go for explosive growth in hardware sales.
199$ is still "pricy" for a handheld, 149$ and market adoption drastically increases.

You're assuming that if they dropped the price to $149 they could keep up with demand. I'm fulling expecting the Switch to sell at least 20m this year and next.

Why limit yourself to 20m though? If you can do 25m-30m? Id try to lower prices and aim for the moon.



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JRPGfan said:


What happend? did they even make use of the new chips?
Wheren't they supposed to be useing 16nm chips for these? or will there be a refresh with newer models to both soon?

I'm not really sure, we'll find out soon enough but I'm not convinced that the Switch Lite actually uses the new chip. But for $199 I think this is a great deal for people who only want a handheld.



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JRPGfan said:
Barkley said:

5.5", marginally improved battery life.

Thats actually slightly dissapointing.
Screen shrunk more than it looks like it needed too (look at the wasted area around the screen).
Battery life is only +30 minuets more?

What happend? did they even make use of the new chips?
Wheren't they supposed to be useing 16nm chips for these? or will there be a refresh with newer models to both soon?

ei. dont be a early adoptor of this lite model?

If a much cheaper price point was their goal, as it clearly was,  spending money on a new line of chips would have worked against that.  Plus, if the new chip design didn't reduce the temperatures when performing at comparable levels enough to where the system could be passively cooled, the bulk of potential gains wouldn't happen.  The system would still be roughly the same size to accommodate the active cooling system.  Battery life would be improved some more but honestly,  not enough to justify the R&D



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JRPGfan said:
Barkley said:

You're assuming that if they dropped the price to $149 they could keep up with demand. I'm fulling expecting the Switch to sell at least 20m this year and next.

Why limit yourself to 20m though? If you can do 25m-30m? Id try to lower prices and aim for the moon.

Because they can get those sales at a cheaper price later on in the lifecycle, so there's no need to sell lots of hardware at a loss now.



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Barkley said:
colafitte said:

Yeah, that was weird too, but Vita TV was so uneventful that nobody cared. With Switch LITE there will be news about sales each month...There's going to be some fired discussions in forums about it....

I don't think so. I'd be surprised if there's many people at all that think the Switch Lites sales should be counted seperate to the Switch. They'd be the vast minority on here anyway.

Well, maybe...., I just side with the pessimistic side in this kind of things because.....well is gaming forums in the internet we are talking about..... It's just that i remember Mat Piscatella giving an explanation back then why Switch was counted as home console in competition with PS4 and XBO on NPD's and it was because it was a hybrid console. He needed to state that because there were lots of people (here too) that didn't considered Switch a home console. Now with Switch Lite, you can bring back that argument again.

It's just tricky, but yeah, it's a Switch console in the end...



Barkley said:
JRPGfan said:


What happend? did they even make use of the new chips?
Wheren't they supposed to be useing 16nm chips for these? or will there be a refresh with newer models to both soon?

I'm not really sure, we'll find out soon enough but I'm not convinced that the Switch Lite actually uses the new chip. But for $199 I think this is a great deal for people who only want a handheld.

If these are still the 20nm chips,... and the only differnce is the smaller screen = slightly increased battery life.
Then next year, they use the 16nm shrunk chips + price cut (from shrinkage saveings).

Alot of early adopters could get burnt.... a year lateron there will be a cheaper model that actually fanless + has better battery life.
They ll probably make use of the "new" like they did with the 2ds/3ds.

New Switch, New Switch Lite.



Number of days to reach 50M from 40M : 198 days
Number of days to reach 60M from 50M : 187 days
Number of days to reach 70M from 60M : 175 days
Number of days to reach 80M from 70M : 227 days

Necro-bump this 2020: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=229249

JRPGfan said:
Barkley said:

You're assuming that if they dropped the price to $149 they could keep up with demand. I'm fulling expecting the Switch to sell at least 20m this year and next.

Why limit yourself to 20m though? If you can do 25m-30m? Id try to lower prices and aim for the moon.

Pursuing pricecuts too aggressively too quickly will result in a more rapid degradation of perceived value.  You'll hit your pricing floor faster,  which will put you in the position of not being able to cut prices to keep up the momentum built mostly on bargain pricing.  Look at Xbone.  MS abused the fire sale strat so much early on that for the past couple years trying to sell the Xbone at MSRP was a lost cause.  Sales soared when they did firesales...at first.  But every bump got lower and lower.  And after each and every one, sales cratered.  The Xbone isn't worth what MS needs to actually be selling it at anymore, not in the eyes of the consumer.

Or to put it more simply, you always ere high because you would rather be a bit high and have to do a little trimming than too low.  Because you can always lower the price, you can never raise it.