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Should Halo Infinite drop Xbox One and go Scarlet exclusive?

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Yes, dump Xbone, next gen exclusive 22 34.38%
 
No, keep it cross gen with Xbone 42 65.63%
 
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Mr Puggsly said:
curl-6 said:

I just wanted to see what other people thought about the idea. It doesn't affect me personally.

I think you're missing the point...

If I cared enough to make a thread I might have some thoughts. Why do you care about the opinions on this thing you can't even bother to form a thought on?

Perhaps you were bored and just wanted to make a thread, but at least try to give it a little thought.

I think most of us recognize that activity is a little light on this site lately. Now, someone has gone out of their way to make a thread to stimulate some discussion. And, you're giving him a hard time about it.....



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I don't see cross platform as a problem, given Scarlet will be a jump visually.



Dulfite said:
I have two thoughts:

1) botw did it on Wii U and Switch, to much success for both systems and still enabling Switch to have one of the best hardware launches ever.

2) botw didn't really look much different on switch compared to Wii u because the hardware difference wasn't that much. Scarlett will make Xbox one look like a joke, right? So there will be a vast difference in power between the two Halo versions, unless they unintentionally don't make the engine look better to keep them on par with each other.

Either way I don't care as I'll either play it (and the others) on PC Xbox game pass one day or a new Xbox. I won't ever buy a Xbox one. No point for me.

1) BotW actually sold poorly on Wii U, especially when you consider that was a hardcore Nintendo audience. I believe many Wii U users upgraded to Switch and bought it there.

2) 1st party Xbox games are already built to offer higher quality graphics settings and assets for X1X and PC. They said this new engine was supposed to be used for the next decade, so I imagine it was built for new specs in mind.

People seem to feel the base X1 version is gonna hold back the Scarlett version. Yet everybody agrees the base X1 version will have a significantly lower resolution, lower visual quality settings and we aren't sure if the base X1 version will be 30 fps or 60 fps. Hence, there is plenty of room for improvement even if the game isn't built for Scarlett.



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What I think they should totally do is delay the PC version for at least 6 months. They could just say that they had to put total focus on the console versions to be able to release it on time.

I think MS is doing a HUGE mistake by releasing their exclusives at the same time in both platforms.



chakkra said:

What I think they should totally do is delay the PC version for at least 6 months. They could just say that they had to put total focus on the console versions to be able to release it on time.

I think MS is doing a HUGE mistake by releasing their exclusives at the same time in both platforms.

Many developers already support X1/X1X, PS4/PS4P and PC at the same time.

I think MS can support X1/X1X, Scarlett and PC. Its also worth considering this is a project that will have significant updates over time.



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Mr Puggsly said:
chakkra said:

What I think they should totally do is delay the PC version for at least 6 months. They could just say that they had to put total focus on the console versions to be able to release it on time.

I think MS is doing a HUGE mistake by releasing their exclusives at the same time in both platforms.

Many developers already support X1/X1X, PS4/PS4P and PC at the same time.

I think MS can support X1/X1X, Scarlett and PC. Its also worth considering this is a project that will have significant updates over time.

But those developers don't have a console they need to convince people to buy. Do you see Sony and Nintendo supporting PC at all?

Look, I think I understand why MS is doing this. They need to shake off the image of bad guys they built over the years, and they're also trying to build a safety net in case its console division fails. But I think they're going about it the wrong way. I hope I'm wrong thou.



chakkra said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Many developers already support X1/X1X, PS4/PS4P and PC at the same time.

I think MS can support X1/X1X, Scarlett and PC. Its also worth considering this is a project that will have significant updates over time.

But those developers don't have a console they need to convince people to buy. Do you see Sony and Nintendo supporting PC at all?

Look, I think I understand why MS is doing this. They need to shake off the image of bad guys they built over the years, and they're also trying to build a safety net in case its console division fails. But I think they're going about it the wrong way. I hope I'm wrong thou.

Sony and Nintendo don't own a fairly successful OS called Windows. MS also runs the digital store included with Windows.

Regardless how well Xbox does, much of which will only be a few western countries, the PC/Windows market is a huge audience being ignored. I always felt MS should do a better job supporting PC gaming and their day one support with Windows Store is more than I ever expected.

Putting all their games on PC might eat some console sales, but its also worth considering they're making their games available to a much bigger audience that's considered neutral. There are many people who game on PC that really don't want to buy a Xbox, we even see them on this forum. Think of it this way, MS is getting more people to play MS games on a MS platform, Windows.

A lot of people are creating a scenario where Scarlett sales struggle simply because people are opting to play Xbox games on Windows. That can arguably be seen as a good thing in my opinion.

A more realistic scenario is maybe Scarlett has respectable sales like Xbox One, maybe better. While the Windows Store thrives because notable content is constantly added and Game Pass is a great deal. That's a scenario I imagine MS is aiming for.



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Mr Puggsly said:
chakkra said:

But those developers don't have a console they need to convince people to buy. Do you see Sony and Nintendo supporting PC at all?

Look, I think I understand why MS is doing this. They need to shake off the image of bad guys they built over the years, and they're also trying to build a safety net in case its console division fails. But I think they're going about it the wrong way. I hope I'm wrong thou.

Sony and Nintendo don't own a fairly successful OS called Windows. MS also runs the digital store included with Windows.

Regardless how well Xbox does, much of which will only be a few western countries, the PC/Windows market is a huge audience being ignored. I always felt MS should do a better job supporting PC gaming and their day one support with Windows Store is more than I ever expected.

Putting all their games on PC might eat some console sales, but its also worth considering they're making their games available to a much bigger audience that's considered neutral. There are many people who game on PC that really don't want to buy a Xbox, we even see them on this forum. Think of it this way, MS is getting more people to play MS games on a MS platform, Windows.

A lot of people are creating a scenario where Scarlett sales struggle simply because people are opting to play Xbox games on Windows. That can arguably be seen as a good thing in my opinion.

A more realistic scenario is maybe Scarlett has respectable sales like Xbox One, maybe better. While the Windows Store thrives because notable content is constantly added and Game Pass is a great deal. That's a scenario I imagine MS is aiming for.

Like I said, I hope MS (and you) are right on this one.



I would say go for the scarlett and make the game as ambitious as possible without being held down by X1 baseline.



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DonFerrari said:
I would say go for the scarlett and make the game as ambitious as possible without being held down by X1 baseline.

Making it "as ambitious as possible" likely means the game couldn't be ready for the hardware launch. This game has been in developer for years on the X1.

It will be the next Halo that really takes advantage of the Scarlett. Also, technical superiority (utilizing new specs) doesn't mean a better game per se. Is anybody arguing Halo 5 is the best game in the series?

Absolutely not, the best Halo game is Halo:MCC. Because its the old games just leveraging better specs. That's what Halo Infinite will be, but at launch!



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