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And no, those who don't steal aren't necessarily priviledged, they just live with what they are given. My budget in college was pretty obscenely low, including limiting myself to ramen or macoroni many days.

That doesn't mean Im just entitled to steal things to make up for it. It meant I just found cheap things to do/play.



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Darwinianevolution said:
I defend piracy as something necessary for a healthy industry, believe it or not. It's the best way to preserve software nowadays, plus it's a great way to fight against practices such as mandatory DRM or platform exclusivity. With that said, it's important to be mindful about whose's game you're pirating, if they can take the blow well and/or if they deserve it.

That's one of the reasons why GOG is my main store on PC. Everything is DRM-free, and you don't even need the launcher. You can even forego about the Dosbox emulator on Dos games and just download the game itself, effectively giving you a ROM to burn on a CD and play the game on an old 486 computer, if you like (and have such an old machine at hand, like I do, or did until my S3 924 GPU in there died after 25 years)



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Ganoncrotch said:
I pirate whatever, I don't really give a rats I pay a ton of cash into the movie and games industry and if there's a game I wanna play that's either not on a format I would pay for it on or if it's easier I'll just do it.

Most recent thing was probably cuphead, was on the PC wanted to see what it's about so I picked it up for the friendly neighbourhood pirate bay and played a fair chunk of it, was announced for the Switch and bought it day 1 (well actually day -14 since I had it pre purchased from the point where you could) I buy on average about 5 games a week to add to my collection across a range of platforms, from PS4/PC/NS/GC/3DS/DS/X360/PS3/Wii and many more.... have hundreds of games legit owned (well... it would be thousands by now actually rather easily, between X360/GC and NS I own around 1,000 titles) I have literally zero problem with pirating a game for effectively any reason I want, from shitty dev practices, just wanting to demo the game or simply because I can't be bothered to password locker my CC details and go to pirate bay instead of steam because they remember my CC details there.

I'd wager that I probably pirate more games than most people on this site, I would also near certainly say I spend more on games that 95% of the people on this site per year coming in at 4figures per season at least. Piracy is great.

One thing I will say though! Support Netflix and your local cinema's as long as you have a decent one in your area, if you only have one and it shuts down you missing out on seeing some great movies in the way they're meant to be seen, I've got a home threater projector (1080p just) setup at 130" but still... you can't get things like a midnight release of Endgame at home so support your cinemas and the movie franchises you love! And netflix because they fund the creation of some amazing series (and in piracies defence.... Adam Sandler movies)

So your ok with pirating PC games but not switch games?. Also Steam wont remember your CC details unless you tell it too, same with PSN and id imagine the switch online store?.



And for each story of how piracy lead you to buy something... there is probably hundreds if not thousands where they didn’t buy anything... just pirated... so...



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zero129 said:
Ganoncrotch said:
I pirate whatever, I don't really give a rats I pay a ton of cash into the movie and games industry and if there's a game I wanna play that's either not on a format I would pay for it on or if it's easier I'll just do it.

Most recent thing was probably cuphead, was on the PC wanted to see what it's about so I picked it up for the friendly neighbourhood pirate bay and played a fair chunk of it, was announced for the Switch and bought it day 1 (well actually day -14 since I had it pre purchased from the point where you could) I buy on average about 5 games a week to add to my collection across a range of platforms, from PS4/PC/NS/GC/3DS/DS/X360/PS3/Wii and many more.... have hundreds of games legit owned (well... it would be thousands by now actually rather easily, between X360/GC and NS I own around 1,000 titles) I have literally zero problem with pirating a game for effectively any reason I want, from shitty dev practices, just wanting to demo the game or simply because I can't be bothered to password locker my CC details and go to pirate bay instead of steam because they remember my CC details there.

I'd wager that I probably pirate more games than most people on this site, I would also near certainly say I spend more on games that 95% of the people on this site per year coming in at 4figures per season at least. Piracy is great.

One thing I will say though! Support Netflix and your local cinema's as long as you have a decent one in your area, if you only have one and it shuts down you missing out on seeing some great movies in the way they're meant to be seen, I've got a home threater projector (1080p just) setup at 130" but still... you can't get things like a midnight release of Endgame at home so support your cinemas and the movie franchises you love! And netflix because they fund the creation of some amazing series (and in piracies defence.... Adam Sandler movies)

So your ok with pirating PC games but not switch games?. Also Steam wont remember your CC details unless you tell it too, same with PSN and id imagine the switch online store?.

When the next models of Switch come I'll get myself the pro model, move my account and library to that and use my original model (and the 256GB micro SD I used before upgrading to the 400GB one I currently use) for homebrew / piracy, I wouldn't risk my Nintendo account with hacking.

I pirate some PC games I buy others, my steam library is populated with games I love and play with friends, much like how my battle net account has my wow account of more than 2 years.... of play time and overwatch. I've no issue with paying for games on the PC where I want to I've said this in the post you quoted.

Cuphead on PC I pirated because I had a feeling that the dev's would put it somewhere I would buy it and I didn't feel it was double dip worthy but was definitely willing to pay for it once! Which I have now done. Something like street fighter 4 on the other hand.... that's a game I've bought a nearly insane number of times... paid full price for that probably... 14 times, if it was to come to the Switch that would be 15 as a pre order without a second thought, it could be 15 now if I'm missing a version but I think it's 14! 2 of those are on the PC if you're wondering! the original Street Fighter 4 from games for windows live and Ultra Street Fighter 4 sits in my steam library!



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gergroy said:
And for each story of how piracy lead you to buy something... there is probably hundreds if not thousands where they didn’t buy anything... just pirated... so...

Do stop and think, when it comes to the tales that piracy costs the developer money, how? If you were to steal the game by going into gamestop and literally going behind the counter and stealing a version of the game which they burned to dvd or cartridge, packaged, shipped and stocked and you stole, but... if you have the game files and I copy them... how does that cost a company money whereas when I cloned my steam library from one of my PC's to the other this week that didn't? But the rom folders I copied from one PC to the other did cost them money because it's piracy?



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I would only defend piracy as a means to play video games that cannot be purchased and played anymore in any fashion.

Examples of Regular Bad Piracy:
1. Downloading Super Mario World on your SNES emulator on PC is still a form of piracy since you can still officially purchase a digital copy on the Wii U.
2. Downloading Final Fantasy VII onto your hacked Xbox 360 is still a form of piracy since the game can be purchased and played on Switch, Vita, PS3, PS4, XB1, and PC.
3. Downloading Pokemon Blue to your phone's emulator is still a form of piracy since you can still purchase a digital copy for your 3DS or 2DS from the eShop.

Examples of Acceptable, No-Choice Piracy:
1. Downloading an EBOOT of Legend of Legaia to your hacked PSP is acceptable since you can no longer find any official sources to purchase the game.
2. Downloading an ISO for Ergheiz: God Bless the Ring for ePSXe is acceptable since you can no longer purchase it from Square Enix in any fashion.
3. Downloading Scott Pilgrim vs. The World: The Game to your hacked PS3 is acceptable since Ubisoft lost the rights and the game cannot be purchased anymore.

Last edited by Azuren - on 13 May 2019

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Azuren said:

I would only defend piracy as a means to play video games that cannot be purchased and played anymore in any fashion.

Examples of Regular Bad Piracy:
1. Downloading Super Mario World on your SNES emulator on PC is still a form of piracy since you can still officially purchase a digital copy on the Wii U.
2. Downloading Final Fantasy VII onto your hacked Xbox 360 is still a form of piracy since the game can be purchased and played on Switch, Vita, PS3, PS4, XB1, and PC.
3. Downloading Pokemon Blue to your phone's emulator is still a form of piracy since you can still purchase a digital copy for your 3DS or 2DS from the eShop.

Examples of Acceptable, No-Choice Piracy:
1. Downloading an EBOOT of Legend of Legaia to your hacked PSP is acceptable since you can no longer find any official sources to purchase the game.
2. Downloading an ISO for Ergheiz: God Bless the Ring for ePSXe is acceptable since you can no longer purchase it from Square Enix in any fashion.
3. Downloading Scott Pilgrim vs. The World: The Game to your hacked PS3 is acceptable since Ubisoft lost the rights and the game cannot be purchased anymore.

What if you are playing through a long rpg on your hacked psp and it is revealed that it will be getting revived as a digital download on something like the switch or a system you don't own, do you delete the iso from your psp because in the future you might be able to play it again on the other system.

You say no choice Piracy.... I have a ps3 with Scott Pilgrim on it right here, I actually have it installed on my ps3 phat and a slim, offer me enough money and I'll sell ya one of um. You don't need to pirate the game! Given the fact that I've only ever sold 2 games in 30 years of gaming, this could be tough!

Also do you imagine there is some gaming ethics version of God overseeing what you do and if you abide by the rules you made up, will you get into gaming heaven when your HDD platters stop spinning?

Edit - Ah I see your no choice piracy is to buy it from the original stores sort of thing, so buying a ps3 with Scott on it wouldn't tick that box as me giving Ubisoft money for the game doesn't please your piracy ethics when you give me money for the ps3 with the game installed on it!!

Last edited by Ganoncrotch - on 13 May 2019

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