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COKTOE said:
Ganoncrotch said:

https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

Definitely listed the site as being just Down, I mean... if it would load over a period of 10 minutes in the real world that is a site which is non functional.

I used a different site and it listed it as down as well.

https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/vgchartz.com.html

d21lewis had even made comments there in the past. :)

I accidentally let it try to load when I went to take a shower, and when I looked at my pc quite some time later, the front page had partially loaded. The entire right column ( hot topics, user reviews, weekly poll ) was missing. There may have been more, but I didn't scrutinize it that thoroughly.

aye indeed, done the same thing, let it load in the background to see if there was a topic on why it was semi dead, half the icons loading down the middle of the page for articles but aye was dead for the main part, you can even see a history listing on the site you just linked.

Date Time Ping Time   Date Time Ping Time
12.Aug.2019
19:40 0 ms.  
12.Aug.2019
21:45 0 ms.
12.Aug.2019
23:46 0 ms.  
13.Aug.2019
01:50 0 ms.
13.Aug.2019
04:12 27.1 ms.  
13.Aug.2019
06:56 26.91 ms.

those top 2 with 0 ping time... those don't mean that it's working super fast and has no lag... those mean the pings to the site never got answered.



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mZuzek said:
CGI-Quality said:

Besides, HDD→SSD is not incremental. That's a big deal and the streaming push will also spice things up. 

Ehh... It's a big push technology-wise but it doesn't really change the gaming experiences you're getting, only the loading times.

Loading times have a big impact on one's overall experience.  I remember when we went from carts to CDs....I thought we had taken a huge leap backwards, because the loading times sucked.  Skip ahead 25 years and loading times still suck just as much.  The difference is that were used to them.  But, I'm looking forward to getting rid of some of that.  I've been waiting for it for a long, long time. 



Hi everyone. New to the website, happy to be here. I've been a very long time fan, but this topic made me join. One thing I'd like to say, my 2 cents, for what it's worth, about the situation..... from an outsider looking in, the responses, and many threads, seam toxic.

Please, dont vilify me for what I'm saying. But, for the longest time, I think, just from what I've seen, that the Sony crowd are the most aggressive. If a xbox thread is made, or a Nintendo thread is made, there is ALWAYS several Sony fans that come in and trash them, no matter what it's about, its 100% of the time.

I'm not saying the others are without guilt, but honestly, they're nowhere near as bad. I dont want to stir anything here, so please, dont get upset with me. Im honestly just trying to give my opinion from what I've seen. I have been coming here everyday for years. I want to see this site flourish.



for me it was when they stopped doing software sales.

I was super regular here from 2006 (I lurked for a while) until 2010, then I used it casually to check software and such, and would get on pretty heavy from October thru the holidays.

The software data was the sites "killer app". I mean the database is awesome, but without new software data... it well... is also becoming worthless.



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Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

Ganoncrotch said:

So you think that a websites peak time to be about console wars was the 90s? at the middle of which there was around 44m people with internet access of any kind?

the number grew from 2010 > 2016 by 32x the number of people using the net in 1995 which was the death of the generation when you think the "console wars" had it's peak. Now obviously there was kids in playgrounds arguing how much cooler sonic was to mario... but that mostly lived and died in a school playground, from the ages of 12-15, adults didn't talk and argue about video games much in that era because there wasn't a means to have an adult conversation about gaming and brands for the majority of the world, so while console wars as a thing existed in the 90s it was actually a tiny portion of the population talking about it as a whole.

The fervor of brand loyalty and the console wars (eg. backing your preferred company) definitely peaked in the SNES and Genesis era.  In those days, it was basically heresy for a Sega kid to own an SNES.  I have no doubt that gaming has far more mainstream reach today but consoles are becoming like a commodity where they are almost clones of each other with the same games, basically timed exclusives being the big difference.  

VGChartz core concept lies in the idea of brand loyalty: it's what makes the debates on these threads so much fun.  It just amazes me that hardware sales is conceptually similar enough to what we had in the 90's to still have a site based around this idea.



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SwitchUP said:
Hi everyone. New to the website, happy to be here. I've been a very long time fan, but this topic made me join. One thing I'd like to say, my 2 cents, for what it's worth, about the situation..... from an outsider looking in, the responses, and many threads, seam toxic.

Please, dont vilify me for what I'm saying. But, for the longest time, I think, just from what I've seen, that the Sony crowd are the most aggressive. If a xbox thread is made, or a Nintendo thread is made, there is ALWAYS several Sony fans that come in and trash them, no matter what it's about, its 100% of the time.

I'm not saying the others are without guilt, but honestly, they're nowhere near as bad. I dont want to stir anything here, so please, dont get upset with me. Im honestly just trying to give my opinion from what I've seen. I have been coming here everyday for years. I want to see this site flourish.

There is no one fanbase here that is worse than another, so the last thing people should do, when trying to discuss ways to help the site, is point fingers and start other needless fights. Normally, a thread like this wouldn't even last this long, but despite my thoughts to initially lock it, I decided to leave it open for reasonable feedback. Let's stick to that.



                                                                                                                                            

SwitchUP said:
Hi everyone. New to the website, happy to be here. I've been a very long time fan, but this topic made me join. One thing I'd like to say, my 2 cents, for what it's worth, about the situation..... from an outsider looking in, the responses, and many threads, seam toxic.

Please, dont vilify me for what I'm saying. But, for the longest time, I think, just from what I've seen, that the Sony crowd are the most aggressive. If a xbox thread is made, or a Nintendo thread is made, there is ALWAYS several Sony fans that come in and trash them, no matter what it's about, its 100% of the time.

I'm not saying the others are without guilt, but honestly, they're nowhere near as bad. I dont want to stir anything here, so please, dont get upset with me. Im honestly just trying to give my opinion from what I've seen. I have been coming here everyday for years. I want to see this site flourish.

You heard him mods, banning all sony fans will save the site.



Ganoncrotch said:
COKTOE said:

I used a different site and it listed it as down as well.

https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/vgchartz.com.html

d21lewis had even made comments there in the past. :)

I accidentally let it try to load when I went to take a shower, and when I looked at my pc quite some time later, the front page had partially loaded. The entire right column ( hot topics, user reviews, weekly poll ) was missing. There may have been more, but I didn't scrutinize it that thoroughly.

aye indeed, done the same thing, let it load in the background to see if there was a topic on why it was semi dead, half the icons loading down the middle of the page for articles but aye was dead for the main part, you can even see a history listing on the site you just linked.

Date Time Ping Time   Date Time Ping Time
12.Aug.2019
19:40 0 ms.  
12.Aug.2019
21:45 0 ms.
12.Aug.2019
23:46 0 ms.  
13.Aug.2019
01:50 0 ms.
13.Aug.2019
04:12 27.1 ms.  
13.Aug.2019
06:56 26.91 ms.

those top 2 with 0 ping time... those don't mean that it's working super fast and has no lag... those mean the pings to the site never got answered.

I do agree it was rather unusable on Monday. I was just saying the admin gets notified when the site is fully down. In the future I will be letting him know if there are any issues with the site running slowly. 



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I do wonder a little bit about the fact that this website says "Not Secure." I've never encountered another website that says the same. Does anyone think that is a deterrent from people feeling comfortable to post here? And how does VGC go about making the site "secure?"



SwitchUP said:
Hi everyone. New to the website, happy to be here. I've been a very long time fan, but this topic made me join. One thing I'd like to say, my 2 cents, for what it's worth, about the situation..... from an outsider looking in, the responses, and many threads, seam toxic.

Please, dont vilify me for what I'm saying. But, for the longest time, I think, just from what I've seen, that the Sony crowd are the most aggressive. If a xbox thread is made, or a Nintendo thread is made, there is ALWAYS several Sony fans that come in and trash them, no matter what it's about, its 100% of the time.

I'm not saying the others are without guilt, but honestly, they're nowhere near as bad. I dont want to stir anything here, so please, dont get upset with me. Im honestly just trying to give my opinion from what I've seen. I have been coming here everyday for years. I want to see this site flourish.

Could you pm me some examples? Not because I don't believe that you feel that way but because it's pretty far from my experience. Granted, too many Xbox threads are dominated by negative comments (mostly because of how few Xbox fans we have on VGC).

Though in regards to PS and Nintendo related threads, I see time and time again that Nintendo threads are able to stay on topic with no one entering just to derail or downplay while I hardly ever see PS threads without Nintendo fans derailing/downplaing. Granted, it's only a few specific Nintendo fans. Listing them would get me banned but I can pm you with their names so you can observe what I mean.