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mZuzek said:
sethnintendo said:
If I ever wanted to have sex with CGI then I'd keep this movie on my list. Other than that it has got to be terrible.

Is it still cool to hate on CGI?

Considering most heavy CGI movies have terrible plot and actors yes.  Only heavy CGI movie that had decent plot would be Avatar and the plot of that movie can be considered stupid.  I'm going to find biggest dragon and jump on its back to mate with its tube and become one with it!  Oh yea!



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sethnintendo said:
mZuzek said:

Is it still cool to hate on CGI?

Considering most heavy CGI movies have terrible plot and actors yes.  Only heavy CGI movie that had decent plot would be Avatar and the plot of that movie can be considered stupid.  I'm going to find biggest dragon and jump on its back to mate with its tube and become one with it!  Oh yea!

King of the Monsters has some pretty good actors actually, but yeah, definitely a terrible plot. You're not supposed to care about the script in this film, so if you do, then it's definitely not for you, but the movie, and certainly the CGI, has some value. I was really impressed with how they managed to give these monsters so much personality without a single line of dialogue, and I think critics in general don't give enough credit to that.

And really, what big blockbuster these days isn't CGI heavy? I know what you're trying to say here, with main characters being CGI and all, but I mean, you look at behind-the-scenes footage of any current big Hollywood movie and it's always green screens galore. And I'm totally okay with that, honestly.



mZuzek said:
sethnintendo said:

Considering most heavy CGI movies have terrible plot and actors yes.  Only heavy CGI movie that had decent plot would be Avatar and the plot of that movie can be considered stupid.  I'm going to find biggest dragon and jump on its back to mate with its tube and become one with it!  Oh yea!

King of the Monsters has some pretty good actors actually, but yeah, definitely a terrible plot. You're not supposed to care about the script in this film, so if you do, then it's definitely not for you, but the movie, and certainly the CGI, has some value. I was really impressed with how they managed to give these monsters so much personality without a single line of dialogue, and I think critics in general don't give enough credit to that.

And really, what big blockbuster these days isn't CGI heavy? I know what you're trying to say here, with main characters being CGI and all, but I mean, you look at behind-the-scenes footage of any current big Hollywood movie and it's always green screens galore. And I'm totally okay with that, honestly.

What I'm saying is hollywood could barely make a decent movie these days.  All of it is all fluff no substance.  Where are movies like Big Lebowski anymore?  They don't exist because they arent superhero cgi shit movies that are made for people with one brain cell that expect all special effects with a shart stain of something one used to call plot.



sethnintendo said:

What I'm saying is hollywood could barely make a decent movie these days.  All of it is all fluff no substance.  Where are movies like Big Lebowski anymore?  They don't exist because they arent superhero cgi shit movies that are made for people with one brain cell that expect all special effects with a shart stain of something one used to call plot.

Hmm... yeah, okay.

Good night.



mZuzek said:
sethnintendo said:

What I'm saying is hollywood could barely make a decent movie these days.  All of it is all fluff no substance.  Where are movies like Big Lebowski anymore?  They don't exist because they arent superhero cgi shit movies that are made for people with one brain cell that expect all special effects with a shart stain of something one used to call plot.

Hmm... yeah, okay.

Good night.

The truth hurts.  If you had a valid counter argument then you would have stated it.  Movies are in a sad state right now and there is no denying it.  As for Godzilla I had some fun watching old movies mainly to make fun of them but they were never ground breaking.  They are kind of like Rampage.  Mediocre video game but with grinding that comes addicting till about the same stage 100 times into game.  You just keep playing because there is nothing else better to do with your time.  Let me know when hollywood actually puts out a movie worth seeing because your talking to someone that thinks even new Star Wars movies are stupid.  Give me something like The Departed or Netflix show Peaky Blinders then I'm interested.  You see why Hollywood gave up?  Rather than try live up to high standards they cater to lowest common denominator.  That's why terrible movies exist because there are terrible people.



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mZuzek said:
 

I was really impressed with how they managed to give these monsters so much personality without a single line of dialogue, and I think critics in general don't give enough credit to that.

Yeah that was something I really liked too. Especially with Ghidorah, despite him being neither able to speak nor even having humanoid features, they conveyed a great sense of evil and viciousness through the way he was animated.

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sethnintendo said:
mZuzek said:

Hmm... yeah, okay.

Good night.

The truth hurts.  If you had a valid counter argument then you would have stated it.  Movies are in a sad state right now and there is no denying it.  As for Godzilla I had some fun watching old movies mainly to make fun of them but they were never ground breaking.  They are kind of like Rampage.  Mediocre video game but with grinding that comes addicting till about the same stage 100 times into game.  You just keep playing because there is nothing else better to do with your time.  Let me know when hollywood actually puts out a movie worth seeing because your talking to someone that thinks even new Star Wars movies are stupid.  Give me something like The Departed or Netflix show Peaky Blinders then I'm interested.  You see why Hollywood gave up?  Rather than try live up to high standards they cater to lowest common denominator.  That's why terrible movies exist because there are terrible people.

Nah, dude, I didn't try arguing against you because the way your point came across was so closed off and aggressive I just thought it wasn't worth it. And it was past 4 AM at the time, so, good night was definitely the right decision. Nothing hurt, because you didn't say the truth, you just spewed bullcrap.

I think the new Star Wars movies are stupid, too, with the exception of Rogue One. Disney sure made me stop caring about that franchise. Of course, it's not just Star Wars - studios everywhere are making safe, cookie-cutter, committee made films that feel like they have to go through a checklist of what a modern day blockbuster must have... but this has always existed. Jurassic Park was a generic blockbuster. Aliens was a generic blockbuster. And as far as generic blockbusters go, there have always been better ones and worse ones, but they've always existed.

It wouldn't take much for one to figure out that my favorite movie is a CGI filled superhero film "made for people with one brain cell", so I'm assuming your big brain already knows, and that just made your whole approach even worse. How did you expect me to even take your point seriously in the first place? I wasn't just gonna get all defensive about it because you attacked, quitting was always the better choice. But there's an undeniable reality here, that these superhero movies have done an amazing job of worldbuilding and character development, and mostly everyone watches them for the plot and characters at this point. In fact, Avengers: Endgame, which you must think so lowly of, spends the vast majority of its 3-hour running time not on special effects heavy CGI battles, but on character moments defined by their personalities. It's no coincidence most of these movies are received so well by critics, fans, and general audiences - they are good, very good, and that's simply the truth. If anyone's hurting here, it's you, and I'm sorry for that.

Good morning.



darkenergy said:
KLAMarine said:
What makes a good Godzilla movie versus a bad Godzilla movie?

Are you asking because KOTM has a 45% on Rotten Tomatos?

Reviewers/Critics are a joke. 

I saw one reviewer who reviewed both movies and his 2014 review complained that there was too much human drama and not enough Godzilla. His review for this movie was too much monsters and not enough Human Drama.

I have found some reviewers love companies or actors/actresses and become extremely biased towards them. My thoughts on this movie are that critics are die hard in love with that Millie girl and thus if she isn't in like 90% of the scenes they are upset. 



I can definitely say if this movie is less Humans and more of the main stars, I am all in. This is a movie about big monsters finding a reason to get together and talk over their issues by smashing each other in the face. All the human element is needed is for them to be set pieces and hopefully not get in the way to much. I rarely look to critics for movies like this because they are always looking for something I am totally not caring about. If this movie tries to give character to the main actors of the movie instead of the humans then I would say the directors got it right.



You can tell they took to heart criticism of the 2014 film not giving Godzilla enough screentime, he gets a lot more exposure this time.

As a fan of the series I also loved how many little references, Easter eggs, and homages to the classic films there were throughout the movie; (series/movie spoilers) from the

Spoiler!
twin female scientists studying Mothra referencing the twin fairies of the old films, the inclusion of the Oxygen Destroyer, Ghidorah losing a head like he does in the 1991 and 2004 films, Godzilla's "burning" form only previously seen in 1995, the remix of Godzilla's original musical theme by Akira Ifukube, the heroes having a super-plane, Mothra sacrificing herself and passing on her essence to revive a fallen ally, the Monarch outpost numbers being the years that the monsters they guarded debuted

Plus I'm sure there's others I missed.

The filmmakers clearly did their research and watched the old movies extensively.