"On Monday, the Working Families Party, a grassroots political group, announced that it would back Warren in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary. After a three-month decision process, Warren got 60 percent of WFP’s vote and Sanders garnered 35 percent. Half of those votes are determined by WFP leaders and the other half by its members."

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2019/9/16/20868862/working-families-party-endorsement-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren

This is pretty big for Warren and shows how much she's gaining in popularity. A little baffling they didn't endorse Sanders again but a win for progressives nonetheless.

I'm glad to see Joe Budden so high in the polls. He dropped some fairly sick rhymes back in the days when calling something sick wasn't lame as hell =P

But Sanders or Warren, you can't go wrong. IMO, Warren would be a healthier leader (as in the health of the nation) and will ultimately get more stuff done than Sanders. 

I think Warren will be effective, after all. She's been good at hunting down some of the slimiest people in Corporate Crimerica. Among the heads on her wall include several Wells Fargo top dogs including former CEO Timothy Sloan who was forced to step down earlier this year after Warren exposed scandal after scandal in a relentless onslaught. Imagine how much more effective she'll be at breaking the domination of the corporate aristocracy as President? She knows all about what they're doing, which was one of Trump's pitches, and she probably knows a great deal more than he does: the big difference is he knows it from a career of being a part of it, she knows it from a career of investigating and charging them. I don't think Sanders as President would be a bad thing either for her efforts, no doubt he would allow her to perform her job better as a partner in power.

#New #California @EmersonPolling
Post Debate Poll:
Biden 26%
Sanders 26%
Warren 20%
Yang 7%
Harris 6%
O'Rourke 5%
Buttigieg 4%
Gabbard 2%
Booker 1%
Castro 1%
Steyer 1%
Klobuchar 0%
Bullock 0%
Delaney 0%
Williamson 0%
Ryan 0%
Bennet 0%
Messam 0%
de Blasio 0%
Sestak 0%

— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) September 17, 2019

Holy shit. Yang is above Harris. And people thought his sweepstakes was somehow a problem? Clearly it was a good fucking idea. It'll be interesting to see if this sticks. Also just realized this was only California, but if Harris gets not even fourth, but fifth in freaking California, she's absolutely toast. Instant toast. She would drop out immediately. Honestly, if she continues to poll this poorly in California into the holidays, she should drop out before the primaries. It'll be interesting to see if Yang starts to do well in other early states, he could become a real contender, if only a marginal one compared to the big three, at least for now.

WFP are a tiny minority party that made little difference in the last primary. They make so little difference, they couldn't even help Joe Crowley defeat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. That's right, they endorsed Joe Crowley over AOC. Of course, they didn't expect AOC to win the primary, but what does that matter? Bernie wasn't expected to win the primary and they endorsed him, why not endorse AOC? So suffice to say I don't pay attention to WFP anymore. They're irrelevant.

Working families? Wait, I thought Elizabeth Warren was the candidate of the elites!

The real reason why many Bernie Sanders supporters now hate Warren more than they do Joe Biden and other actual neoliberal candidates is well-concentrated in the results of the first post-debate national poll conducted by NBC and the Wall Street Journal...

Biden: 31%
Warren: 25%
Sanders: 14%
Others: Single digits

...in the fact that Warren had her biggest rally to date just weeks ago (15,000 attendees), and in the fact that she has now won the endorsement of a notable labor-oriented organization that endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2016. (One doubts these same people objected to the Working Families Party back then.)

In other words, Sanders now faces real competition for the progressive mantle. There doesn't appear to be any other real reason for this anti-Warren stuff we've been seeing from Bernie Sanders supporters of late. Bernie himself seems much cooler. He doesn't seem to have a problem with Liz Warren. The two have repeatedly backed each other up, in fact, in both of the last two debates they've been in. Sanders even suggested Warren as a running mate for Hillary Clinton back in 2016 and is the only person I've heard him even hint at as a possible running mate of his own should he win the nomination this time around.

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/09/sanders-vs-warren-who-has-more-working-class-donors/

An interesting breakdown on which professions contribute the most to each campaign.

Bernie is the actual working class candidate based on this.

Oh definitely, it's a competition now. And it's not that I'm anti-Warren, it's that, well, like you said it's a competition. I'm competing. Bernie has his strategy on the campaign trail, I have mine as I campaign for him. I don't expect anyone to think I'm somehow not biased in Bernie's favor, I've made it quite clear that I am just as you've made it clear you're biased for Warren. It's a political contest, the whole point is to end up biased for someone so you know who to vote for when the time comes. I actually have a lot of respect for Warren, and don't anticipate her doing anything to change that. I really hope that if either Sanders or Warren gets the nomination, they pick the other for the VP. As valuable as each is to the Senate, it's not like Vermont or Massachusetts are all that likely to produce a Republican senator. And after the first Warren or Sanders term is up, I hope the VP steps down and makes way for an AOC VP for the second term of whoever's administration it is, because she'll be old enough by the time the second term comes around. The advantage there being it sets her up for a presidential run later herself, and since by the second term both Bernie and Warren would start getting ageist criticisms that they might die, AOC as VP would crush any worries there, or at least the disingenuous arguments alleging worry. But yeah, I see that Warren and Sanders have been pretty friendly with each other on the campaign trail, and I'd like it to stay that way.

Got any actual data to back that claim up or are you just pulling that out of your ass?

Warren does far better with white, wealthier more educated liberals than Sanders this is known and the data supports this. There's no question though she's gaining a little more momentum on the working class front. I think it'll be easier for her to court the working class than it'd be for Bernie to court wealthier liberals. As we near the end hopefully both of them will energize the electorate enough to nudge out Biden. I feel a race just between Warren and Sanders would be a clean one with just policy proposals being debated on.