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forevercloud3000 said:
Yeah that sucks. Yet, it really isn't that large a loss. A super niche title in a genre that notoriously underperforms on Xbox. MS has made some really strong moves getting Final Fantasy series and Neir Automata tho. Those are big snags that the system needed.

I question the sales of said games on Xbox tho. Is the potential of widerbase actually making these games more profitable or just stretching out their limited profit line? The margin disparity between PS4 FF sales and XB1 is large... could they not have saved Dev cost by just skipping xbox? Like I cannot fathom FFX and XII making their costs back on Xbox, would really be surprised. If MS is paying for them it makes sense. Sony, PC and Nintendo just own too much of that mindshare.

Do we know the average cost to get a PS4 game running properly on XB1?  I've been led to believe that its pretty simple in the current generation.  If so, the dev costs should be minimal. 



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forevercloud3000 said:
Yeah that sucks. Yet, it really isn't that large a loss. A super niche title in a genre that notoriously underperforms on Xbox. MS has made some really strong moves getting Final Fantasy series and Neir Automata tho. Those are big snags that the system needed.

I question the sales of said games on Xbox tho. Is the potential of widerbase actually making these games more profitable or just stretching out their limited profit line? The margin disparity between PS4 FF sales and XB1 is large... could they not have saved Dev cost by just skipping xbox? Like I cannot fathom FFX and XII making their costs back on Xbox, would really be surprised. If MS is paying for them it makes sense. Sony, PC and Nintendo just own too much of that mindshare.

Do we know the average cost to get a PS4 game running on XB1?  I've been led to believe that its pretty simple in the current generation.  If so, the dev costs should be minimal.  I'd like to know what "minimal" really means though, and if "minimal" is accurate.  



VAMatt said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Yeah that sucks. Yet, it really isn't that large a loss. A super niche title in a genre that notoriously underperforms on Xbox. MS has made some really strong moves getting Final Fantasy series and Neir Automata tho. Those are big snags that the system needed.

I question the sales of said games on Xbox tho. Is the potential of widerbase actually making these games more profitable or just stretching out their limited profit line? The margin disparity between PS4 FF sales and XB1 is large... could they not have saved Dev cost by just skipping xbox? Like I cannot fathom FFX and XII making their costs back on Xbox, would really be surprised. If MS is paying for them it makes sense. Sony, PC and Nintendo just own too much of that mindshare.

Do we know the average cost to get a PS4 game running properly on XB1?  I've been led to believe that its pretty simple in the current generation.  If so, the dev costs should be minimal. 

Considering the claims of when gen started that some devs had like 2 people for couple weeks being able to make a port from PC to PS4. And considering how close the architecturesare, and that most games are made with PC then "translated" to console... I would say there is good chance that 10k sales pay a port.



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DonFerrari said:
VAMatt said:

Do we know the average cost to get a PS4 game running properly on XB1?  I've been led to believe that its pretty simple in the current generation.  If so, the dev costs should be minimal. 

Considering the claims of when gen started that some devs had like 2 people for couple weeks being able to make a port from PC to PS4. And considering how close the architecturesare, and that most games are made with PC then "translated" to console... I would say there is good chance that 10k sales pay a port.

I don't believe it's nearly as expensive as it used to be  before but haven't gotten the impression it's super cheap by most Dev standards. 

 

Most jRPG devs are still staying away from Xbox like the plague.



      

      

      

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forevercloud3000 said:
DonFerrari said:

Considering the claims of when gen started that some devs had like 2 people for couple weeks being able to make a port from PC to PS4. And considering how close the architecturesare, and that most games are made with PC then "translated" to console... I would say there is good chance that 10k sales pay a port.

I don't believe it's nearly as expensive as it used to be  before but haven't gotten the impression it's super cheap by most Dev standards. 

 

Most jRPG devs are still staying away from Xbox like the plague.

I would say it is super cheape on gaming terms, but let's say you have a game with 1M sales on PS4 that a port would grant another 10k (and they wouldn't lose money on it), they probably wouldn't even bother making it anyway.



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animegaming said:
Pinkie_pie said:

if switch gets persona 5 so will xbox. its much easier to port it to xbox so why not.

Probably because Atlus has way more confidence it will do better on Switch then PS4.

You're predicting that Persona 5 will do better on Switch than PS4?



outlawauron said:
animegaming said:

Probably because Atlus has way more confidence it will do better on Switch then PS4.

You're predicting that Persona 5 will do better on Switch than PS4?

Yeah I definitely don't agree P5 will do better on Switch. Maybe in Japan though. Def not in EU and NA.



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outlawauron said:
animegaming said:

Probably because Atlus has way more confidence it will do better on Switch then PS4.

You're predicting that Persona 5 will do better on Switch than PS4?

 

Rafie said:
outlawauron said:

You're predicting that Persona 5 will do better on Switch than PS4?

Yeah I definitely don't agree P5 will do better on Switch. Maybe in Japan though. Def not in EU and NA.

Given what the context of the conversation was, I am sure that animegaming accidentally typed 'PS4' instead of 'XB1'.



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outlawauron said:
animegaming said:

Probably because Atlus has way more confidence it will do better on Switch then PS4.

You're predicting that Persona 5 will do better on Switch than PS4?

I meant Xbox, my bad.