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Nautilus on 28 February 2019
MasonADC said:
Nautilus said:

Its not a matter of being unlikely or not, its what people wanted out of the game.

And even then, since when its wrong to expect pokemon to look as good as most Switch games, or to have it ditch archaic mechanisms as random encounters?

The random encounters I can agree with, but looking as good as other switch games? There was never a chance with that 

I understand from where you are comming from, but if anyone comes to me and tries to convince me that Im wrong to expect more out of Pokemon, just because Gamefreak is lazy with the franchise, then Ill always disagree with him.Just because something has a history of being mediocre(with its ambition), dosent mean that I shouldnt expect more.

If you truly believe this is good, then ok, Im happy for you.But if you think this is good simply because you have grown accoustomed for Pokemon to never look quite good, then with all due respect, Gamefreak managed to brainwash you.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

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MasonADC on 28 February 2019
Nautilus said:
MasonADC said:

The random encounters I can agree with, but looking as good as other switch games? There was never a chance with that 

I understand from where you are comming from, but if anyone comes to me and tries to convince me that Im wrong to expect more out of Pokemon, just because Gamefreak is lazy with the franchise, then Ill always disagree with him.Just because something has a history of being mediocre(with its ambition), dosent mean that I shouldnt expect more.

If you truly believe this is good, then ok, Im happy for you.But if you think this is good simply because you have grown accoustomed for Pokemon to never look quite good, then with all due respect, Gamefreak managed to brainwash you.

There is no brainwash. There is just no reason to expect more. This game has only been in the works for 3 years when it releases, all while they have had other big games being developed. I know what to expect from this+ GF just now starting Hd Devlopement. If this game came out late 2021, then we would have an issue 



MasonADC on 28 February 2019
mZuzek said:
MasonADC said:

The only credible source I know is that King Zell said that GF(or nintendo) called this the BoTW of Pokémon 
mZuzek said:

I think he most likely meant "I'm making this shit up".
John19 said:

King Zell is probably the most reliable leaker there is
MasonADC said:

I don’t have a reason to doubt what he says yet
mZuzek said:

It's exactly because of this that the "most reliable" leakers are never the most reliable.

Did you miss the part about GF challenging themselves to try new things 



AngryLittleAlchemist on 28 February 2019
MasonADC said:
mZuzek said:

Did you miss the part about GF challenging themselves to try new things 

Let's be honest .... you kinda rekted yourself 



Nautilus on 28 February 2019
MasonADC said:
Nautilus said:

I understand from where you are comming from, but if anyone comes to me and tries to convince me that Im wrong to expect more out of Pokemon, just because Gamefreak is lazy with the franchise, then Ill always disagree with him.Just because something has a history of being mediocre(with its ambition), dosent mean that I shouldnt expect more.

If you truly believe this is good, then ok, Im happy for you.But if you think this is good simply because you have grown accoustomed for Pokemon to never look quite good, then with all due respect, Gamefreak managed to brainwash you.

There is no brainwash. There is just no reason to expect more. This game has only been in the works for 3 years when it releases, all while they have had other big games being developed. I know what to expect from this+ GF just now starting Hd Devlopement. If this game came out late 2021, then we would have an issue 

Brainwashed.Trained to expect something less than excellent.Its all the same thing.

Im not trying to say you are necessarily wrong.You are being realistic, even if I hate to admit it.But gaming for me is a hobby that is no longer held back by money(for the most part, anyway).The biggest hurdle for me is time.And Im not going to spend my limited free time on a game that is simply not trying its best, even if its "unrealistic" to expect more.The real issue I have with people here is that Im being called toxic or something along those lines, because I have a "higher standard".

And XC 2 was developed in 3 years, or 3 and a half years, cant quite remember.With a team of 70 or 80 developers.And yet, it felt ambitious.A bit unrefined in a few areas, but ambitious.Gamefreak had a bigger team on this, dealing with a franchise that sells 15 million units on each mainline entry, with a spin off that managed to sell 10 million units in 2 months last year, and they couldnt afford to either hire more people or outsource some of the work?See where I am getting?

Im more than cool with people being happy with this, just dont complain about the ones that are not.Thats all Im asking.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

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MasonADC on 28 February 2019
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
MasonADC said:

Did you miss the part about GF challenging themselves to try new things 

Let's be honest .... you kinda rekted yourself 

Please elaborate 



MasonADC on 28 February 2019
Nautilus said:
MasonADC said:

There is no brainwash. There is just no reason to expect more. This game has only been in the works for 3 years when it releases, all while they have had other big games being developed. I know what to expect from this+ GF just now starting Hd Devlopement. If this game came out late 2021, then we would have an issue 

Brainwashed.Trained to expect something less than excellent.Its all the same thing.

Im not trying to say you are necessarily wrong.You are being realistic, even if I hate to admit it.But gaming for me is a hobby that is no longer held back by money(for the most part, anyway).The biggest hurdle for me is time.And Im not going to spend my limited free time on a game that is simply not trying its best, even if its "unrealistic" to expect more.The real issue I have with people here is that Im being called toxic or something along those lines, because I have a "higher standard".

And XC 2 was developed in 3 years, or 3 and a half years, cant quite remember.With a team of 70 or 80 developers.And yet, it felt ambitious.A bit unrefined in a few areas, but ambitious.Gamefreak had a bigger team on this, dealing with a franchise that sells 15 million units on each mainline entry, with a spin off that managed to sell 10 million units in 2 months last year, and they couldnt afford to either hire more people or outsource some of the work?See where I am getting?

Im more than cool with people being happy with this, just dont complain about the ones that are not.Thats all Im asking.

I still don’t see the whole brainwash thing, but whatever. And that xenoblade comparison isn’t the best, considering that they literally just finished working on a huge open world home console game before 2. Also, xenoblade 2 wasn’t exactly the best quality on release, so yeah. GF could outsource a whole studio to help with Pokémon to be super ambitious, but why should they? Don’t get me wrong, I would love an ambitious PKMN game, but it isn’t needed. Criticism is fine, but certain ones still aren’t



MasonADC on 28 February 2019
mZuzek said:
MasonADC said:

Did you miss the part about GF challenging themselves to try new things 

Right. The PR statement about "we're doing new things", that literally every developer says about every game ever, is confirmation that this is, truly, the BotW of Pokémon. After all, we couldn't see anything from the trailer, it's not like they showed random encounters or fixed camera angles or anything. Things are still very much up in the air, yes.

An yes, the true determination of an evolution of a series 



Keybladewielder on 28 February 2019

Am I boo boo the fool for wanting this game to have a Battle Frontier



ARamdomGamer on 28 February 2019

I don't get the fixed camera meme