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Train wreck said:

Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2017 (Dec 04 - Dec 10)

01./00. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami 2 # (Sega) {2017.12.07} (¥7.590) - 131.931 / NEW
02./00. [PS4] Earth Defense Force 5 (D3Publisher) {2017.12.07} (¥7.800) - 111.075 / NEW <80,00%>
03./01. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 106.094 / 1.050.168 (-1%)
04./03. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 95.816 / 949.470 (+56%)
05./04. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 50.594 / 1.460.370 (+40%)
06./07. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 33.315 / 894.553 (+42%)
07./00. [PS4] Kamen Rider: Climax Fighters # (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.12.07} (¥7.600) - 21.971 / NEW
08./02. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 # (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} (¥7.980) - 19.678 / 117.409 (-80%)


I don't get the criticism on Kingdom Hearts 3 second week drop. Were people saying the same when every other RPG that drops 80% w/w, like Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (which was released during the holiday season)?

The Xenoblade series doesn't have the same sales potential than a series like KH, people are expecting great things for a sequel that was in the waiting for 13 years and now that it's out, people probably wants the game to do great past it's first week.



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Train wreck said:

Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2017 (Dec 04 - Dec 10)

01./00. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami 2 # (Sega) {2017.12.07} (¥7.590) - 131.931 / NEW
02./00. [PS4] Earth Defense Force 5 (D3Publisher) {2017.12.07} (¥7.800) - 111.075 / NEW <80,00%>
03./01. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 106.094 / 1.050.168 (-1%)
04./03. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 95.816 / 949.470 (+56%)
05./04. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 50.594 / 1.460.370 (+40%)
06./07. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 33.315 / 894.553 (+42%)
07./00. [PS4] Kamen Rider: Climax Fighters # (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.12.07} (¥7.600) - 21.971 / NEW
08./02. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 # (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} (¥7.980) - 19.678 / 117.409 (-80%)


I don't get the criticism on Kingdom Hearts 3 second week drop. Were people saying the same when every other RPG that drops 80% w/w, like Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (which was released during the holiday season)?

It's because the were people who for a while were saying how KH would give the PS4 a significant boost in competing in Japan while with the likes of Xenoblade nothing of the sort was said so KH coming out and not even denting the NS' position before dropping 80% is being picked up on as a result.



Train wreck said:

Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2017 (Dec 04 - Dec 10)

01./00. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami 2 # (Sega) {2017.12.07} (¥7.590) - 131.931 / NEW
02./00. [PS4] Earth Defense Force 5 (D3Publisher) {2017.12.07} (¥7.800) - 111.075 / NEW <80,00%>
03./01. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 106.094 / 1.050.168 (-1%)
04./03. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 95.816 / 949.470 (+56%)
05./04. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 50.594 / 1.460.370 (+40%)
06./07. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 33.315 / 894.553 (+42%)
07./00. [PS4] Kamen Rider: Climax Fighters # (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.12.07} (¥7.600) - 21.971 / NEW
08./02. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 # (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} (¥7.980) - 19.678 / 117.409 (-80%)


I don't get the criticism on Kingdom Hearts 3 second week drop. Were people saying the same when every other RPG that drops 80% w/w, like Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (which was released during the holiday season)?

Xenoblade 2? Are you serious? XC is a super niche series until XC2, while Kingdom Heart is a very well known franchise and the mainline game always sell big. KH3 is a system seller, yet it did nothing to help ps4 and drop just like nothing. Comparing a KH mainline game to a XC game is very very laughable logic



Azelover said:
Agente42 said:
It is amazing that third-party companies can not read the market. The Switch is selling well without them, imagine what it would be like if Nintendo had support like a PSP? Or even Psvita? Just look at the trajectory. Nintendo never, I say NEVER lost in their handheld division. Nintendo crushes all competition, in portable scene. The console is part portable, how would a resounding failure like was the WiiU or Gamecube if it also part of the area of ​​greater success of nintendo? How can a console unifying two-console libraries fail if one of these libraries has never been lost in any generation of video game history?

Yes, for a long time I wondered too. And after talking with a lot of people about this, I cam to one conclusion: Third parties do not want to compete directly with Nintendo games. Most of these third parties want to make crap, and sell it. That would never fly on a Nintendo console.

And even the good developers that have a lot of quality, their sales would still suffer a little bit from being compared with Nintendo games.

It's unfortunate, but I don't think that's gonna change. It would need some heavy money-hatting from Nintendo, and money-hatting never works because the party in question would just go to another console manufacturer and have them make another offer. And then it would end up like a ping pong, and everybody would lose. So, I've come to accept that third parties will only support Nintendo consoles minimally, or almost minimally.

In  handheld scene Nintendo aways sell third parties games, Tetris (only published by Nintendo), Professor Layton, Sonic Games,  Monster Hunter, Yokai Watch , Mario & Sonic Games, Dragon Quest and go on. It`s not true. They are losing loots of money. It's not rational, it's just a bad business decision.

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Agente42 said:
Azelover said:

Yes, for a long time I wondered too. And after talking with a lot of people about this, I cam to one conclusion: Third parties do not want to compete directly with Nintendo games. Most of these third parties want to make crap, and sell it. That would never fly on a Nintendo console.

And even the good developers that have a lot of quality, their sales would still suffer a little bit from being compared with Nintendo games.

It's unfortunate, but I don't think that's gonna change. It would need some heavy money-hatting from Nintendo, and money-hatting never works because the party in question would just go to another console manufacturer and have them make another offer. And then it would end up like a ping pong, and everybody would lose. So, I've come to accept that third parties will only support Nintendo consoles minimally, or almost minimally.

In  handheld scene Nintendo aways sell third parties games, Tetris (only published by Nintendo), Professor Layton, Sonic Games,  Monster Hunter,Mario & Sonic Games, Dragon Quest and go on. It`s not true. They are losing loots of money.

Good point. But the Switch is not a regular Nintendo handheld.

I've explained this a thousand times, but the Switch is not currently classified as a handheld. It is a home console, that you can take on the go. This is clear as day. It isn't a handheld that you can connect to the TV. Console costs $300, games cost $60, and it was marketed at young adults(instead of children).

Nintendo doesn't have the spot for handheld this gen covered, because the Switch isn't a handheld. Third parties know this, and so does Nintendo. Even so, it is very successful, and it's been that way for almost two years. It's high time for third parties to take notice. But, like I said, they don't want to compete with Nintendo directly in the Home Console space(which the Switch is primarily part of at the moment).



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Azelover said:
Agente42 said:

In  handheld scene Nintendo aways sell third parties games, Tetris (only published by Nintendo), Professor Layton, Sonic Games,  Monster Hunter,Mario & Sonic Games, Dragon Quest and go on. It`s not true. They are losing loots of money.

Good point. But the Switch is not a regular Nintendo handheld.

I've explained this a thousand times, but the Switch is not currently classified as a handheld. It is a home console, that you can take on the go. This is clear as day. It isn't a handheld that you can connect to the TV. Console costs $300, games cost $60, and it was marketed at young adults(instead of children).

Nintendo doesn't have the spot for handheld this gen covered, because the Switch isn't a handheld. Third parties know this, and so does Nintendo. Even so, it is very successful, and it's been that way for almost two years. It's high time for third parties to take notice. But, like I said, they don't want to compete with Nintendo directly in the Home Console space(which the Switch is primarily part of at the moment).

NES, SNES e Wii sells a tons of third parties titles too. 



Mar1217 said:
Train wreck said:

Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2017 (Dec 04 - Dec 10)

01./00. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami 2 # (Sega) {2017.12.07} (¥7.590) - 131.931 / NEW
02./00. [PS4] Earth Defense Force 5 (D3Publisher) {2017.12.07} (¥7.800) - 111.075 / NEW <80,00%>
03./01. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 106.094 / 1.050.168 (-1%)
04./03. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 95.816 / 949.470 (+56%)
05./04. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 50.594 / 1.460.370 (+40%)
06./07. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 33.315 / 894.553 (+42%)
07./00. [PS4] Kamen Rider: Climax Fighters # (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.12.07} (¥7.600) - 21.971 / NEW
08./02. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 # (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} (¥7.980) - 19.678 / 117.409 (-80%)


I don't get the criticism on Kingdom Hearts 3 second week drop. Were people saying the same when every other RPG that drops 80% w/w, like Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (which was released during the holiday season)?

The Xenoblade series doesn't have the same sales potential than a series like KH, people are expecting great things for a sequel that was in the waiting for 13 years and now that it's out, people probably wants the game to do great past it's first week.

It was #2 in terms of launch Kingdom hearts and it was the number #1 in the second week of release and these don't include digital.  I would say the game is doing pretty well for itself.  Also the question wasnt answered.



HoangNhatAnh said:
Train wreck said:

Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2017 (Dec 04 - Dec 10)

01./00. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami 2 # (Sega) {2017.12.07} (¥7.590) - 131.931 / NEW
02./00. [PS4] Earth Defense Force 5 (D3Publisher) {2017.12.07} (¥7.800) - 111.075 / NEW <80,00%>
03./01. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 106.094 / 1.050.168 (-1%)
04./03. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 95.816 / 949.470 (+56%)
05./04. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 50.594 / 1.460.370 (+40%)
06./07. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 33.315 / 894.553 (+42%)
07./00. [PS4] Kamen Rider: Climax Fighters # (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.12.07} (¥7.600) - 21.971 / NEW
08./02. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 # (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} (¥7.980) - 19.678 / 117.409 (-80%)


I don't get the criticism on Kingdom Hearts 3 second week drop. Were people saying the same when every other RPG that drops 80% w/w, like Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (which was released during the holiday season)?

Xenoblade 2? Are you serious? XC is a super niche series until XC2, while Kingdom Heart is a very well known franchise and the mainline game always sell big. KH3 is a system seller, yet it did nothing to help ps4 and drop just like nothing. Comparing a KH mainline game to a XC game is very very laughable logic

Ok...Kingdom Hearts 3 ships 5 million first week, mainline game still selling big (check).  KH3 (and Resident Evil 2) helped move consoles for the past two weeks, game is still a system seller (check).  Nintendo inability to elevate Xenoblade from niche status has nothing to do with the question I asked... I was comparing a RPG dropping -80% being criticized when other RPGs (from megasellers like DQ IX -74%, DQ XI PS4 -79% 3DS -74%, other Kingdom Hearts games BBB -74%, DDD -80%) and the like have similar drops and I can't recall the same criticism.  RPGs have difficult launch week to second week drops, period.



Jranation said:
animegaming said:
Yikes at the drop for both Kingdom Hearts and Resident Evil.

Kingdom Hearts 3 is FFXV all over again, its gonna take a while to cross a million and not without some deep discounts.

Resident Evil might not even cross 500K.

PS4 drop was awful and this the second of its two biggest games of the year.

What is the first? 

I meant that both Kingdom Hearts and Resident Evil are the biggest Japanese PS4 games this year. 



Azelover said:

Good point. But the Switch is not a regular Nintendo handheld.

I've explained this a thousand times, but the Switch is not currently classified as a handheld. It is a home console, that you can take on the go. This is clear as day. It isn't a handheld that you can connect to the TV. Console costs $300, games cost $60, and it was marketed at young adults(instead of children).

Nintendo doesn't have the spot for handheld this gen covered, because the Switch isn't a handheld.

So if Nintendo classifies a banana a home console it magically will become a home console and consumers will buy it because they think it is a home console? Yeah, makes totally sense to me because #logic.

Who would have thought japanese consumers which are living in a handheld and mobile market would buy Switch because it was a handheld device. Boy no that would be hillarious, totally #illogic.