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zorg1000 on 09 January 2019
colafitte said:
zorg1000 said:

I know, that's exactly what I'm saying, in that chart its Wii fiscal shipments vs PS4 calendar sales so when I get a chance I'll make a FY shipments comparison.

in the name of integrity, we should have an actual chart that compare both FY years, not this. This is the worst kind of misinformation. The kind i hate the most. Putting correct and official numbers but with different context misleading the people in the process. 

PS4 started better, then Wii entered god mode and then fell way quicker than PS4, but not as much as that graphic shows.

Read what I said, I've said it twice now

I WILL MAKE A FY VS FY COMPARISON



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colafitte on 09 January 2019
zorg1000 said:
colafitte said:

in the name of integrity, we should have an actual chart that compare both FY years, not this. This is the worst kind of misinformation. The kind i hate the most. Putting correct and official numbers but with different context misleading the people in the process. 

PS4 started better, then Wii entered god mode and then fell way quicker than PS4, but not as much as that graphic shows.

Read what I said, I've said it twice now

I WILL MAKE A FY VS FY COMPARISON

Why are you so angry? LOL. Calm down. I read what you said. That's why I said we needed a better graphic (like the one you said you was going to do).

Seriously, people here are more angry than ever... 

The graphic was wrong and it was indisputable, period. The new graphic is correct  but if you prefer fancy over rigor, I don't.

Thanks for the new graphic by the way. 



zorg1000 on 09 January 2019
colafitte said:
zorg1000 said:

Read what I said, I've said it twice now

I WILL MAKE A FY VS FY COMPARISON

Why are you so angry? LOL. Calm down. I read what you said. That's why I said we needed a better graphic (like the one you said you was going to do).

Seriously, people here are more angry than ever... 

The graphic was wrong and it was indisputable, period. The new graphic is correct  but if you prefer fancy over rigor, I don't.

Thanks for the new graphic by the way. 

Im not angry, its just that I told you twice I would make a better comparison and you ignored it both times while continuing to complain about the old one.

Also I'm not the one who made the previous one.



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colafitte on 09 January 2019
zorg1000 said:
colafitte said:

Why are you so angry? LOL. Calm down. I read what you said. That's why I said we needed a better graphic (like the one you said you was going to do).

Seriously, people here are more angry than ever... 

The graphic was wrong and it was indisputable, period. The new graphic is correct  but if you prefer fancy over rigor, I don't.

Thanks for the new graphic by the way. 

Im not angry, its just that I told you twice I would make a better comparison and you ignored it both times while continuing to complain about the old one.

Also I'm not the one who made the previous one.

I did not ignored any post. If you felt that way I'm sorry. I did not expected you had to do any other graphic nor you were the the one who made the wrong one.

I just answered every post you wrote, that's all. I was writing o the phone while watching TV. 



Train wreck on 09 January 2019

Sony's estimated numbers for this fiscal year puts the PS4 600k of the Wii for the same time period in its cycle (96.5M vs 95.85M). Someone at resetera extrapolated the current sell thru for the PS4 to about 8.4 million units shipped for the quarter, that leaves only 2 million for them to meet their goal of 17.5M for this fiscal year.



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Evilms on 09 January 2019

"The big thing is the Playstation consoles usually have longer legs than Nintendo systems.
Even in 2019, Im expecting 16m+ sold for the year."

 

This is what has made the strength of playstation consoles since ps1, they sell well over time.

For those who doubt the wii numbers it comes from this graph :

 

http://fortune.com/2017/04/21/nintendo-classic-console-sales/

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zumnupy10 on 09 January 2019

I am on the side that believes PS4 selling 120M+ too optimistic.



Farsala on 09 January 2019
zumnupy10 said:

I am on the side that believes PS4 selling 120M+ too optimistic.

I agree, 110m-120m is a safe bet imo. Anything less or more will be difficult to predict.



colafitte on 09 January 2019
Farsala said:
zumnupy10 said:

I am on the side that believes PS4 selling 120M+ too optimistic.

I agree, 110m-120m is a safe bet imo. Anything less or more will be difficult to predict.

Something like 12-15M in 2019, 6-9M in 2020 (or similar) and then the end? Because that's the only way PS4 only does 110-120M lifetime...



Farsala on 09 January 2019
colafitte said:
Farsala said:

I agree, 110m-120m is a safe bet imo. Anything less or more will be difficult to predict.

Something like 12-15M in 2019, 6-9M in 2020 (or similar) and then the end? Because that's the only way PS4 only does 110-120M lifetime...

It depends on Next gen of course.

Consider PS2 it was at like ~112m at PS3 launch. 70% of its sales. The PS2 had great legs and late international launches like in Brazil.

Consider PS3 it was at like ~80m at PS3 launch. 90% of its sales. The PS3 had poor legs.

Now PS4 is at 91.6m. if we assume that is 75% of its sales then it will go on to sell ~120m. 80% would bring it lower, but I went higher due to PS5 not launching yet.

As I said I think 110m-120m is the safe bet. 105m-115m or 115m-125m would be pretty safe too, but a bit more risky. 100m-110m or 120m-130m would be even riskier, and so on and so forth.