If you're own nation isn't prepared to 'share' power in a real democracy whether that's either direct or representative then do your own nation a favour and don't proclaim it to be democratic since otherwise they're no better than regimes like North Korea which hosts their own 'elections'. It's also these very same representatives that decided THEMSELVES to sanction the referendum itself in the first place that these so called 'moronic' voters participated in ... 

Polls do NOT serve as a justification for reneging an actual democratic mandate ... 

@Bold Oh really ? So you're arguing that the Scottish independence vote SHOULDN'T have been binding with a simple majority as well ? In the future, if Northern Ireland ever decides to hold a vote on reunification and it came out positive does that mean that you would insist on reneging that result as well along with breaking the provision within the Good Friday Agreement as well ?! 

That wasn't nearly as clear cut as you make it out to be. In fact, in most polls leading up to the vote, leave was going to win and not, like you state, never did so:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#2016

As you can see, there's more on the leave side than on the remain side. The last week was dominated from the murder of a remain MP (I think it was an MP, correct if I'm wrong on it), which let it seem to swing back at the last second on the polls.

Now however?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#Remain/Leave

Leave is getting soundly beaten and the last poll where leave was in front is from March 2018, so over a year old though they managed to get equal shares at times since. It's even worse if you ask a 3-way question between remaining, leaving with a deal, or leaving without a deal:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#Three-option_referendum

remain wins every single vote there by a landslide. Especially young voters (18-24 years old) votes only up to 19% for leave, less than even those without an opinion. I do wish they had continued the question after January though, as leaving with and without a deal, taken together, had a major surge at the end, it would be interesting if that all continued or got killed with Mays deal.

I actually believe that such a vote should have an absolute majority (=2/3 majority). It is a big vote with very far-reaching consequences after all.

However, since Brexit was binding with a simple majority, I don't see why Scottish and Northern Ireland independence votes should be treated differently. Since Brexit got through with a simple majority, so should they now.

I've just seen a talk about Brexit on the German television channel Phönix and one person mentioned something very interesting.
"The Tories are probably the only conservative party in the world to make policies against their own economy"
That's very true I think.

You need to re-order the results based on whether they were telephone or online. Online was closest to the actual result but their methodology was shit.

Remain might be the most popular answer but like with the original ref, you have to take into account those who are likely to actually vote and for the next ref, those who would prefer to see a democratic result enacted regardless of what their personal preference is. Unlike remainers, many leavers voted to help the poorest in our own society instead of looking after their own immediate interest. We're playing the long game.

Remainocrats will make the Leave win even bigger. Foreigners understand less than we do the powers at play.

England has a 2 million majority in favour of leave. The Brits might end up staying in the EU but it's only a matter of time before England leaves.

An EU without England is a joke.

It's England, not the UK or Europe that has directed history and humanity for the past 300-1000 years.

Up until WW2, maybe. Since then, they've just been following, not directing anymore.

Also, 2 Million majority? Not even during the referendum was the majority so big. But yeah, if the MPs and newspapers continue to blame everything bad on the EU and grab all the credit for themselves when the EU does something good, then of course the UK will leave some day.

But seriously, at this point, what's floating in most people's minds if you leave is more in the line of "good riddance, you ingrates! The EU is much better off without you naysayers" or something like that.

Time to stop liveing in the past.
Ive said it before the UK isnt "the empire on which the sun never sets" anymore.

And its importance on the world scene will only drop futher, once it leaves the EU.

NSYNC's reign to fame is dying, and the importance of JT will only drop further once he leaves. Wait a minute...

Yes, because the UK & EU are directly comparable to JT & NSYNC.

And to think on the politics thread you had the temerity to suggest that it is inaccurate to compare Trump's staff turnover to those of other Presidents...

Your posts are a joke!