USA forceing the UK to accept their Genemodifed foods, chlorinated chicken, Growth hormone & heavily medicated meats, in a trade deal.
As well as being forced to buy certain medicine's from the US, if it wants a trade deal with the US.
Thats just the USA, China/india will likely bully you guys too.
Also a hard boarder at Nothern Ireland... which might restart the troubles.
Plus the chance of loseing Northern Ireland (they might re-unite with ireland), and Scoutland might seek independence as well.
In less than 3% of the votes in the EU, did the UK oppose them.
Which means 97% of the time, the UK voted alongsides the EU members majority.
These 3% of "freedoms" you give up (most of which are just decent things that protect the rights of the people) and now regain, will come at a huge cost.
Your economy is gonna take a huge hit for it.
I think brexit is like the UK shooting itself in the foot.
However at this point, I think its for the best as well.
The UK never really believed in the EU project, and was mainly in it for self benefits (economically), and always looked down on the EU members, from their "high horses".
UK has a "victim superiorty" complex, and has spent the last 20years blameing the EU for everything under the sky that went wrong in the UK.
It was a easy scape goat for politicans.... because of this people in the UK have a twisted view on the EU.
UK is no longer the "empire on which the sun never sets", and I think reality is gonna smack them in the face soon.
Anyways best of luck UK.
The UK doesn't have to accept a US/China trade deal if they don't want to and I doubt India will be position to bully the UK because they're straight up technologically inferior. That's the beauty of independence and there are over a hundred other countries to do deals with. The UK just like China, Turkey, or Russia don't have to capitulate to the demands of a foreign body ...
The EU proposing the backstop in the first place and the declining unionist community is why Theresa May should just give in to exactly what the DUP wants which is a no deal! By enacting a hard border in place, "The Troubles" could potentially restart again thus making the nationalist community living near the border go into decline. Arlene Foster and Nigel Dodds will be turned on to know that their opponents such as Leo Varadkar and Sinn Fein will be the ones to shed tears when the DUP takes a piss on them. If the DUP manages to kill all hopes of Irish reunification then the unionists will forever be indefinitely protected from Irish tyranny and a no deal brexit is their best chance to destroy the Good Friday Agreement for good. You must not be very good at geopolitics if you don't realize all this ...
"3% of freedoms" ? LOL, how very naive of you to just undermine the differences in interests. If you really think so then why don't you demand that the EU ends their customs union, freedom of movement, CAP, and CFP ? Just ending freedom of movement alone means that the UK don't have to provide jobs and pensions for many EU citizens which alone is worthwhile for Brexit. Older UK citizens get their jobs back where they'll likely spend their money in the UK and nearly every one of them becomes happier in the end ...
Interests can and will diverge so what the UK agreed to last time does not mean that they will agree in the future. Thatcher's weakness on sovereignty and Blair's cancerous spread of neoliberalism are things that need to dearly die in a ditch for good. The British public needs to countenance the possibility that joining the EU may have been the wrong path all along just as the unionists are having second thoughts about the Good Friday Agreement ...
"....there are over a hundred other countries to do deals with"
There really isnt today, most of is done in Trading Blocs.
EU, EFTA,EEU (euro-asia).... then Caricom (carribean countries), AU (african union), USAN (south america), NAFTA (north american), ect.
Alot of places dont do trade deals on a country by country bases anymore.
Chooseing not to trade with america at all, because you cant accept the things they ll force you to accept, will mean you ll have to go other places (which might not be as intrested in british products).
"By enacting a hard border in place, "The Troubles" could potentially restart again thus making the nationalist community living near the border go into decline."
Lets purposefully restart the bombings and killings in our own country again! What a great idea!
Im sure everyone will be lineing up to thank Theresa May.
Also the "blame" for such a thing wouldnt be the EU..... it would be England breaking the "Good Friday agreement",
when they choose to leave the EU without a plan or be willing to be part of a common market.
"Why doesnt the EU countries just BEND over backwards for us, so leaveing isnt a issue, and doesnt start any trouble in the UK" (me paraphraseing)
Wow..... you realise other countries have self intrests too right? and the entire world doesnt revolve around the UK.
End customs union, freedom of movement, ect just to suit the UK? why?
"the UK don't have to provide jobs and pensions for many EU citizens which alone is worthwhile for Brexit. Older UK citizens get their jobs back where they'll likely spend their money in the UK and nearly every one of them becomes happier in the end"
You believe in rainbows & unicorns too I see :)
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Hogwash, just leaveing the EU common market alone is a bigger hit economically than whatever member fee, you guys are paying.
Things will at best probably be end up being much the same.
Hopeing that leaveing magically saves the UK and gives jobs to the older UK citizens..
Those polish (eksample) workers that work on like farms ect, you think most UK citizens are jealous of them? and want to be underpaid and do farm jobs?
The reason the polish people are doing it, is because their okay with hard laber and low wages, most UK citizens wont do that work for that pay.
Once they leave, if those jobs go back to UK citizens, prices of farm products will rise.
Riseing prices on farm products, ontop of loseing "eu farming subsidies" (eu pays farmers), will mean the UK farming industry will not be nearly as competitive as it was before. Next thing that happends? the UK starts putting up trade barriers to "protect" its farming industry. This "we want free trade" you brits are shouting now, will be long forgotten and gone soon too I suspect.