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If anybody is a has become a bunch of sore looser its the source listed Fox News they are a bunch of assholes fair and balanced my ass they need to fuck off.

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pokoko said:
And rational people see both parties do the same things when they lose and chuckle at the "but the other side is WAY WORSE" bullshit.

Agree to the fullest with this and it can be applied to most Political threads.

Everything is mostly about belonging to the "good" side and overamplifying the negatives of the "bad" side instead of finding common ground and this behaviour does not get us where we need to go as humanity to progress, or slows us down when we look at it with a more positive view.



The margin for of error in the governors and Senate races were do small that a recount should be made. Why is that troublesome? If there is proof that some democrats tried to manipulate the results, show them? Are there corrupt democrats? Ofcourse just as there are huge numbers of corrupt republicans. But the source to are the referring to shows nothing.

pokoko said:
And rational people see both parties do the same things when they lose and chuckle at the "but the other side is WAY WORSE" bullshit.

This is the perfect retort. On every single article on every single website you’ll find people from opposite sides of the political spectrum being hypocrites. They’ll both give examples of the other side doing some bullish!t wit will never agree that both sides have sh!t and hypocrisy in their ranks.

I just read this in an article on a liberal website: “Of course the threads of a fascist politics weave through both political parties, which have sold their souls to the financial elite, though the Democrats do their work under the cover of self-righteousness and constitutional liberties while the Republicans bask in their embrace of corruption and a craven silence in the face of Trumpism.”

That’s a great summation of the way to hunts are. But you should read the comments there. It’s either they’re mad at the author or they point out how much worse the other side is. I lean left but I’ve been kicked off many websites for calling out liberal hypocrisy. And I’ve been kicked off right-wing sites for calling out conservative hypocrisy. See, neither side likes to lookin the mirror. 

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Immersiveunreality said:
pokoko said:
And rational people see both parties do the same things when they lose and chuckle at the "but the other side is WAY WORSE" bullshit.

Agree to the fullest with this and it can be applied to most Political threads.

Everything is mostly about belonging to the "good" side and overamplifying the negatives of the "bad" side instead of finding common ground and this behaviour does not get us where we need to go as humanity to progress, or slows us down when we look at it with a more positive view.

People don’t care about finding common ground anymore. The right just wants to “stick it to the libtards” and the left just thinks the entire middle of the country is too dumb to have a say. I blame Facebook. 



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Democrats haven't become sore losers, they've already been them for a while now. Every time there is a request for a recount, it's when democrats lose. This midterm election only shows how much more whiny they've become. The amount of crying and whining and accusations of fraud or voter suppression has just gone through the roof. Really shows that the party that accused Trump of not being able to accept the results of an election (when it was predicted he would lose) is the party that in fact, can't handle results themselves.

But it's not surprising. The left teaches people that you are always the victim of something when things don't go your way. These losers were simply behaving the way they had been brought up.

thismeintiel said:
RolStoppable said:
The source is Fox News? Aren't those the guys that Trump always accuses of running fake news?

I'm sure that would be CNN.  Still, if you don't like the source (the paper clip incident was actually taken from the NYT) you can find it elsewhere.

Well, that was easy.



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collint0101 said:

Source is a Fox news link, yeah has all the credibility of a republican uncle rambling at Thanksgiving dinner. Either way recounts never hurt anybody.

Wow what an incredible way to describe the shit show that is Fox News. Fucking perfect. I’m stealing this with zero shame, thanks.

Also, wow, what a shock. American political party mucks stuff up to try and get their way. I’d be more surprised if this wasn’t literally what both sides do every election.



cycycychris said:

I hope you are not arguing that voter suppression laws are not a thing currently. Georgia's exact match law disproportionately affected black votes, 90% cases were black votes. Or if you look at North Dokata, it requires all voters to have an ID that has a street address. This made it so natives could not longer vote, they have PO boxes. Natives vote overwhelmingly for democrats. All these were to try and cull out the oppositions votes.

Oh yes, I am definitely arguing that voter suppression laws are not a thing.  Additionally, I'm pointing out that you have swallowed a political talking point that turns a good-faith set of laws completely on their head in order to allow illegal activity that disproportionately aids one party and keeps minorities feeling like victims which increases the tribal nature of their voting patterns.  It's a win-win for Democrats.  Call Republicans racist (again) and get free votes.

In fact, voter registration and voting have become objectively much, much easier in the past two decades.  In the case of Georgia's exact match law, there's really nothing to it.  A few people are put into a separate category in a computer, but were still allowed to vote as long as they had an ID.  In North Dakota, there was a free workaround to the problem (someone going out an assigning an address).  It was exasperated by the constant court challenges pushing the workaround until the last minute instead of simply complying with the law.

But let's discuss whether requiring an address is reasonable.  If the goal is to prevent voter fraud, and it is, would it reasonable to require a physical address in order to vote?  Yes it it.  Having a physical address is important in establishing that the name in the roll is a real person and not just a ghost that shows up on election day.  If you are serious about stopping voter fraud, then

But that's the way of things.  No matter how reasonable a voting law requirement is, after all, a physical address is kinda important in establishing that you're a real person and not just a ghost on election day, news stories will always portray a minority as being hardest hit by it.

Hiku said:

It also serves the purpose of preventing/mitigating voter suppression.
Georgia voting machines in one area where hundreds of people lined up to vote were missing power cords. Another area had only two voting machines for hundreds of people, making them stand in line for hours and hours without getting to vote, etc.

And I'm not sure what type of voter fraud you are suggesting, but voter suppression tends to only impact in person voting. And impersonation voting fraud is next to non existant, and inconsequential. Between 2000 and 2014, there were only 31 instances of potential voter fraud found out of over a billion votes.

A missing power cord or not enough machines is incompetence at the local level stemming from officials that represent the district in question itself and has nothing to do with any law we're talking about.

And found instances of voter fraud are irrelevant.  Law enforcement undercounts ALL crimes that are committed.  And Democrats are doing everything in their power to make sure that it's easier to do and get away with.  So it's not shocking that lax laws combined with a crime that incredibly difficult to detect make for an underreporting of the actual instances.

Why is it that you believe that voting is the one area of life where men are angels and no laws are needed?  This seems to me to be an article of (bad) faith.  You can't actually believe that only 4 people voted illegally in a 15 year period.

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