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OhNoYouDont on 15 October 2018
Mr Puggsly said:
OhNoYouDont said:

Well I'm not sure you mean by "a lot". The person I responded to had a video of perhaps two guests speaking on the show who could be considered to have made racist remarks. I'm going to assume you mean you have watched many different network interviews though because at the moment your comment makes no sense in context.

You may disagree that low IQ people tend to be racist and conservative but that's a scientific fact as I've already demonstrated.

I wonder why black people would be bothered by a minority siding with a social conservative? Could it be that anyone with an ounce of intellect would understand that a certain political party is responsible for keeping the status quo? E.g. disproportionate sentencing and targeting of minorities, especially blacks, in this country?

This isn't rocket science.

How am I supposed to respond to respond to conservatives having low IQs?

I certainly know the most violent and illiterate ridden communities are run by democrats. So I don't know, maybe we have lots of idiots supporting the left as well. At the very least the left has enough idiots to keep them in power. Its democrats that want less voting limitations, because they know many of their supporters are too stupid to get an ID or whatever. Dems also want to give voting rights to felons. Why? Because criminals love democrats.

In a nut shell, the dems love idiots as long as they get their votes. I have not heard a single democrat argue they don't want votes from idiots, instead they spend a fortune trying to get them to vote. Because they're confident idiots lean democrat.

That's not what I said though. I said low IQ people tend to be racist and conservative. I did not say that conservatives tend to be low IQ. 

In other words, if you have a low IQ you tend to lean to the right and you tend to be racist. 

Limitations on voting are like Jim Crow era laws man, they serve no purpose but to prevent people from casting their vote. The downtrodden may have no reason to have a driver's license and surely they should have representation?

I think you're a bit hyperbolic about criminals voting. Certainly someone who has served their time to society should have their voting rights restored upon release?

Well that's how the system works my dude. Everybody gets to vote, even the idiots. Let's not pretend the common American understands anything about politics either. Most Americans are profoundly ignorant about the candidates and simply cheers for his or her team. And it works reasonably well, to be honest. Like my man Thanos says: balance in all things.



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Machiavellian on 15 October 2018
Jumpin said:
Machiavellian said:

Because they have absolutely no clue what it means to be black in America.  Kanye is suddenly some clairvoyant savant because he is willing to be black and support Trump.  Instead, they forget he is the same clown who they thought was a complete idiot when he jump on stage at the VMAs' or the same bipolar guy they use to call all kinds of names because of his mouth.  Now he is respected because he supports Trump and he is black.  Since they never listen to his music, they will never know the 2 edge sword that is Kanye.  Should be fun as he turn to his other side and they go back to condemning him for his views.

I was listening to a podcast featuring Bret Easton Ellis and Kanye West. Listening because I wanted to hear how a narcissistic author who writes about narcissistic self-centred sociopaths would interact with a narcissistic self-centred guy who thinks everything is about him. It didn't disappoint. When Kanye asks himself what his profession is, he answers that it would have to be "creative genius" but then says the only problem with that title is that it is too long, and he finds genius difficult to spell sometimes.

Before Republicans discovered he liked Trump they'd only refer to Kanye as a gay fish.

Classic KW.  People really do not want to get on the KW train, it only leads to despair.  As I have stated before, I actually like Kanye music but he definitely isn't someone I would ever ask for his opinion.



HouseEorl on 15 October 2018

It does not surprise me that at least a few former slaves would actually want to be slaves again. Can't be absolutes on any moral issue. People are never going to all agree.



jason1637 on 15 October 2018
Helloplite said:
If you stretch the definition of "amazing speech" - like - really, really stretch it, then yes this was an amazing speech. That or you have never heard an amazing speech in your life. Or you don't know what amazing is. Or a speech.

I have heard and read good speeches before and this one was really good.



barneystinson69 on 15 October 2018

Don't have time to watch now, so I'm tagging.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

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barneystinson69 on 15 October 2018
HouseEorl said:
It does not surprise me that at least a few former slaves would actually want to be slaves again. Can't be absolutes on any moral issue. People are never going to all agree.

Lol what?



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

PortisheadBiscuit on 15 October 2018
RolStoppable said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

So funny too how silent they became once they were asked to elaborate on their claims. 

Firstly, I merely answered your question what LurkerJ's post was supposed to mean, so I don't have to say anything further.

Secondly, I've seen neither of you two guys try to refute any of the posts that pointed out why West's speech isn't amazing.

No one said you HAD to do anything, hell, you didnt have to answer the initial question addressed to Lurker with condescending dribble, but you did. 

 

You judged and villainized an entire genre and culture, and it's very clear you have no in depth knowledge of said culture other than personal bias. When asked to elaborate on your claims, you dodged and you're still doing it. Very transparent. 



Shaqazooloo0 on 16 October 2018

I guess, I can agree on what Mr. West is saying but I wouldn't call it "amazing".



PortisheadBiscuit on 16 October 2018
RolStoppable said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

No one said you HAD to do anything, hell, you didnt have to answer the initial question addressed to Lurker with condescending dribble, but you did. 

You judged and villainized an entire genre and culture, and it's very clear you have no in depth knowledge of said culture other than personal bias. When asked to elaborate on your claims, you dodged and you're still doing it. Very transparent. 

I gave you the answer you asked for. There's no doubt that my answer was accurate, because LurkerJ later confirmed it that that was exactly what his initial post was supposed to mean. You mistake the answer I gave you for my claim.

Since you didn't respond to my second point, you are the one who dodges a point. I suppose it's easier to harp in on a generalisation of one person than to discuss the main point if what West said was really amazing.

You perform some pretty remarkable mental gymnastics, not sure if it's in the vein of deceit or naivete. My guess is the former. 

 

Your question wasnt directed towards me specifically, so I did not address it. In fact, I didnt even watch the speech. The only reason I posted in this thread to begin with was reactionary; to Lurker's turbulent and problematic comment.


There were several questions directed at both you and Lurker, challenging your abilities to accurately critique prominent members of hip hop culture...which you both cunningly ignored. So no, I am not the culprit of dodging. I've replied to every comment addressed towards me, while you and Lurker have cherry picked which posts to reply to. 



PortisheadBiscuit on 16 October 2018
RolStoppable said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

You perform some pretty remarkable mental gymnastics, not sure if it's in the vein of deceit or naivete. My guess is the former. 

Your question wasnt directed towards me specifically, so I did not address it. In fact, I didnt even watch the speech. The only reason I posted in this thread to begin with was reactionary; to Lurker's turbulent and problematic comment.

There were several questions directed at both you and Lurker, challenging your abilities to accurately critique prominent members of hip hop culture...which you both cunningly ignored. So no, I am not the culprit of dodging. I've replied to every comment addressed towards me, while you and Lurker have cherry picked which posts to reply to. 

Does that mean you recognize Kanye West as a highly intellectual individual?

Define "intellect" before I answer your loaded question...