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SKMBlake said:
DélioPT said:
Switch has yet to get a BIG 3rd party game outside Fifa, that isn't a port and not an online game (not to take merit away from them).

It already have 2, Mario+Rabbids and Octopath Traveler. And will get Doom Eternal next year.

BIG  as in, COD, Battlefield, RDR 2, GTA, Destiny, etc..



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Nate4Drake said:
I think it is a success; maybe not this huge achievement that some would like you to believe, but very promising. In the end they are selling a Home console together with a portable, so numbers are good but nothing outstanding, as the OP already said.


It's selling in line with the best selling systems, that's outstanding IMO. 



The original 3DS had a battery life of like 3 hours, too. I know because I lost a bet.



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MasonADC said:
Nate4Drake said:
I think it is a success; maybe not this huge achievement that some would like you to believe, but very promising. In the end they are selling a Home console together with a portable, so numbers are good but nothing outstanding, as the OP already said.


It's selling in line with the best selling systems, that's outstanding IMO. 

The beauty of taste and opinions. I think Nintendo Wii was outstanding in the first 3 years, and it was "only" a Home Console. In the end it depends on how we perceive success.



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Nate4Drake said:
MasonADC said:

It's selling in line with the best selling systems, that's outstanding IMO. 

The beauty of taste and opinions. I think Nintendo Wii was outstanding in the first 3 years, and it was "only" a Home Console. In the end it depends on how we perceive success.

For Nintendo Switch, I believe success will be measured extensively, as Nintendo themselves are hoping for a longer lifespan (longer than the average Nintendo console, home or handheld). As Nintendo Wii's sales plummeted very fast starting fiscal year '10, Switch could win slow and steady. 

It's a marathon, really.



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CaptainExplosion said:
RolStoppable said:

The fact that you still have to ask makes it clear that you shouldn't try your hands on satire threads. That, and your established ban on creating political threads. Which, by the way, was collateral damage in a grander scheme.

Who told you I wasn't allowed to make political threads?

It was a public announcement by the mod team.

d21lewis said:
The original 3DS had a battery life of like 3 hours, too. I know because I lost a bet.

The official battery life ranges for Switch and 3DS are 2.5-6 hours and 3-5 hours, respectively, and both ranges line up with reality. The noteworthy difference is that Switch's battery life is game-dependent while the 3DS's was not. In other words, low to medium settings (brightness, volume) on Switch can get you anywhere between 3-6 hours, depending on if you play something like Breath of the Wild or Blaster Master Zero; whereas on the 3DS low to medium settings with 3D off result in a range of 4.5-4.75 hours pretty much every time.



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I think it will need at least 80 Mil to be considering a success.

As the 3DS is near that



I have the impression this is a troll thread,but i'll answer anyway,since i have nothing better to do.

1- switch doesn't need to sell as much as wii u and 3ds combined to give nintendo profit, it's more expensive than the 3ds with games that cost more as well. Not to say 3ds was initially a bomb and wii u was a failure to the end. Also, switch still hasn't got to the second holiday season which can put it on par or above with the ps4,the console that rn is a success. Software sales are also stronger than ever, so i don't know what the concern with sales are here.

2- share drops happen all the time for a bunch of reasons, so if you want to use it as a metric for a company in general you have to look at it on an amount of time, not just a point. On march 3rd,when switch released,a share on nintendo was worth  around 21,000 yen ,now it's worth 41,000. I'd say we're fine in this front.

All the other points are either personal opinions like 3ds being a better portable(3ds never fitted in my pocket so i use the same bag to transport my switch as the one i used to carry my 3ds,not to say 3ds as a piece of hardware is awful imo) or lazily constructed(paid online is worth a discussion,but what you wrote is laughably simplistic and means nothing to the point you want to make.Sony is sucesseful now and have paid online, it's all about more profit.Nintendo would make online paid eventually even if they sold a 200 million more switches).

The one point i can give you is third parties not coming at large amounts, that can be improved. Still, we're having sucesseful cases of third party games there, so i wouldn't worry much about that. Tho it's true the better games are the nintendo games atm.

I believe switch will end up at around 90 million,nothing revolutionary,but a success overall. At this point in time however, looking at the price of the hardware and the amount of software sales, it's obviously a success if you just look at numbers for more than a minute.

Overall,i don't like most nintendo fans. They're loud and obnoxious and don't see past their little box with a logo. But i also hate trolls, so i thought i would try to debunk some bad critique i see on internet all the time.

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GuyDuke said:
Nate4Drake said:

The beauty of taste and opinions. I think Nintendo Wii was outstanding in the first 3 years, and it was "only" a Home Console. In the end it depends on how we perceive success.

For Nintendo Switch, I believe success will be measured extensively, as Nintendo themselves are hoping for a longer lifespan (longer than the average Nintendo console, home or handheld). As Nintendo Wii's sales plummeted very fast starting fiscal year '10, Switch could win slow and steady. 

It's a marathon, really.

I got your point, and yes, I smell a longer life cycle for the Switch, even though I would never place a bet :)  Things might change very fast without a significant notice, and for all Companies and consoles. I was not expecting Wii to slow down like it did from end of 2009, and 2010. Sony introduced Move, Microsoft Kinect, but that was really the reason behind the Wii progressive decline ? Perhaps partially, but I don't think it is to be attributed to the answers of Microsoft and Sony to Nintendo motion controller, being in my opinion the the most fun and versatile, my personal taste. Ok, PS3 got the cheaper slim, but still Wii had the best motion experience, and this is what made it so successful, selling like hot cakes for over 3 years.  What happened after? I could not predict Wii progressive decline, really.  So I will not try to predict anything about lifespan, as I still don't know what Sony and MS will pull out in Nov 2020(just a guess), and don't know how long Switch will continue to be so attractive. One very good point in favour of Nintendo is that they have no competition in the portable market, Nintendo is the king, and selling an Home Console together with a portable might sell very well for a loooong looong time.  Sure Switch is a success, and Nintendo is focusing on a longer life cycle.  

When I said about Wii being outstanding in the first 3 years, I was referring to raw selling numbers; Success in the long run is a different story, as you said, and Switch could be more successful than Wii, in the long run, as it appears its basic concept cannot be replicated by its competitors.

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DélioPT said:
SKMBlake said:

It already have 2, Mario+Rabbids and Octopath Traveler. And will get Doom Eternal next year.

BIG  as in, COD, Battlefield, RDR 2, GTA, Destiny, etc..

Exactly, Switch will fail without super-massive AAA games such as these, that's why it's selling worse than the Wii U, since the Wii U at least had COD.