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I don't agree with what the guy said but sorry it's true that one of the worst thing brought about by African American culture is gangster culture. Not saying other ethnicity doesn't have their fair share of shame but it puts honorable African American icons like Martin Luther King to shame.

Seriously I feel as if the moderation in this forum have a really heavy hand on banning people who say "unpopular" things. It's disgusting.

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So the tag line for the Nike advertising campaign is "Believe in something, even it means sacrificing everything."

Uh huh, color me unimpressed.  Kapernick made millions in the NFL during his tenure as a starting QB, and now he's making millions as a spokesperson for a multi-billion dollar company that manufactures shoes and clothing in 3rd world sweatshops.  The only thing he "sacrificed" was a chance to be a backup making the veteran minimum on some dumpster fire of a team over the past couple of seasons, because no serious team with Super Bowl aspirations will come within 100 yards of him.

Compare that to another former NFL QB who was famous for taking knees... Tim Tebow.  Guy never got anywhere near the big payday Kap got despite having success his first year as a starter and taking a 1-4 team to the playoffs, and after his football career ended he chose to pursue his love of baseball, where he's been putting in work in the minors with prospects almost half his age.  The guy is all class and never said a bad word about anyone, yet the same ppl who praise Kap for being "brave" and exercising his right to protest and speak out are the same ones who trashed Tebow for "shoving his religion in everyone's face" whenever he took a knee.

The fact of the matter is Kap bet that a team would sign him to a big contract based on past performance after he was released from the 49ers, and after it didn't work out that way he decided it would be better to play the victim and become a social justice activist instead if being paid a lot less than he was making to be a backup QB.  And if he was really serious about still being in the NFL, he could've played a season in the Canadian Football League (they'll take anybody, just ask Johnny Manziel) and proved to NFL owners and his critics that he still had plenty left.  Guess he'd rather continue taking a big dump on the flag than getting dumped from a team again.



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Believe in something is better than believing in nothing! A lot of problems in this world are due to people not believing in anything.



Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Believe in something is better than believing in nothing! A lot of problems in this world are due to people not believing in anything.

I'd say the vast majority of problems in the world are caused by people believing in something. Pretty much everyone does, some more than others though. Problem is that certain beliefs are put on the same level as facts or even higher, which is where the problems start.



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pokoko said:
collint0101 said:

Because making sweeping generalizations about an entire race without taking socioeconomic factors into account is proper behavior apparently

What he said wasn't factually untrue.  You can disagree about the root causes but banning anyone who mentions the situation isn't doing anyone any good.  Honestly, that kind "no, you can't talk about that" mentality is a negative thing.

Facts are racist. And facts are sexist. And the mod thread is closed because of harassment with facts.



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So exactly how did this all started. Kap was sitting on the bench during the national anthem which is something not shone on TV for fans not going to the game. Some reporter noticed he was sitting on the bench (because there was no rule you had to stand for the Anthem in US football). The reporter asked Kap why he was sitting and he stated, he cannot stand for the Anthem when so many of his people are being killed by police brutality.

So my question is was it his right to sit during the Anthem like so many Americans do when they are at the game. When it all comes down to it, was Kap doing anything any other American with their rights and freedom. Now of course the first thing that happens when you protest about something is to change what is being protested and make it about something else. Now it's the flag, he is protesting, or our people in the military service or our country etc but not about what he stated.

People had the GOD given ability to actually do what they mostly do and ignore it because the majority would never see it anyway. I wonder what the discourse would be if instead of Kap sitting on the bench it was Tom Brady and he made those statements. It would be interesting to see if there would be a different tone.



KLAMarine said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

What are you even talking about? I can not tell if you are just purposefully being intellectually dishonest, or if you just do not understand how reactions to political movements or protests usually work. No one would ever say, or identify themselves as, someone who is against all types of protests. Firstly because that would be too specific of an identifier, secondly because even among the biggest fans of America, openly stating that you are against all protests comes off like a negative attitude towards one of the most fundamental parts of American culture. Even with those things acknowledged, you probably could find some random person who openly states they are against all forms of protest.

I'm talking about this image.

When I see this image, I come away with the fact that there is one speaker. This one speaker is seemingly against six forms of protest and this image was posted in the context of SpokenTruth's post. Preceding this image was SpokenTruth's "Every time they protest something, you get throngs of white people yelling back to not protest like that."

I could be wrong but I assume the one speaker from this image is one of those in the "throngs of white people" SpokenTruth is referring to. This one speaker certainly seems ridiculous saying a march with signs is not how a peaceful protest should be carried out. As a result, I was curious and wanted to talk to one of these in the "throngs of white people" because I think dialogue is a great way to air grievances.

In my case, my grievance is that this one speaker opposes a peaceful march with signs but I don't know why they could be against such a thing.

That pic is misleading, because the people bitching about one pic may not be the same ones bitching about another. With internet these days, there will be people bitching about any and everything, so that pic you posted works for anything.

As for the breakdown of why someone might bitch, here are my two thoughts.

Pic 1. Rioting: Need I explain this one?

Pic 2 & 4. Protesting during a sporting event. Sporting events are where people go to escape. They may not want protests thrown at them when they are watching their favorite sport. How would you like it if in the Spiderman or Last of Us game there was a protest in it, or lots of NPC's wearing I Can't Breathe Shirts. I would be annoyed, imo. It's similar to the Nike situation right now. If I go out in public wearing Nike's right now, many people may see that as me supporting an agenda of some sort. My shoes whether I care of not became part of a statement. I no longer can just wear Nike's cause I like the brand, the fit, or the style. People will think because I'm wearing them that I support Colin, am against cops, support kneeling, hate American, ect. Whatever that person may think my shoes represent.

Pic 3. Not sure what that pic is showing, but two possible reasons for bitching.
      a) The protest very well could have resulted in violence or rioting
      b) It was illegal protest, blocking traffic on a highway. Happens a lot in Minneapolis
      c) blocked an event or store. There were people blocking entry to MN State fair the other day. They did it once to Mall of America on Black Friday. I can see why people would be pissed when like 75% of their yearly income is tied to one day/weekend and some protest hurts that. 
      Otherwise, I have seen tons of peaceful marches happen all the time and no one bitches. It's only bitching when the above things happen.

Pic 5. If I recall, that pic is of a play where the cast stood and berated an audience member from a party they did not agree with. Do you agree with that. Are you a supporter of the people that go and harass members of a party you dislike when they are out at a play or eating at a restaurant?

Pic 6. No idea what that is. Looks like a pic of a graduating class.





steve

jason1637 said:
V-r0cK said:
Too lazy to google, anyone care to explain what all the fuss is about this guy?

He took a Knee during the national anthem because of police brutality towards African Americans and was fired.

he opted out of his contract, not fired



steve