- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."
- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."
CaptainExplosion said:
You don't see anything racist in what she says? Not even here?
She'd be the absolute worst thing for Toronto. How are you not bothered by the horrible shit she spews everywhere?
You're seriously painting all immigrants that way? You're as bad as she is. |
Please clarify what race was being discriminated against.
Well you guys had a coked up major. But that being said I rather have a coked up major then her.
massimus said: Just looked up a picture and she’s cute. She was wearing a Trump hat and holding an AR. She seems like a fine person. |
Yeah if you like religious gun nuts. I pass I already hate regular gun nuts but religious gun nuts are ten times worse.
Chris Hu said:
Yeah if you like religious gun nuts. I pass I already hate regular gun nuts but religious gun nuts are ten times worse. |
Well that pic in context was her saying “happy Independence Day” to the US. I don’t mind religious people, it’s their right. I’m not religious personally, It’s not as helpful to me as it is for others. If you mean gun owners then that’s a lot of us here, I think that was her point. “Happy 4th yanks!”. She seems much more chill than your current PM. Or do you call them president?
thismeintiel said:
What radio program? And there's nothing wrong with her tweets, unless you're on the extreme left. Also, nationalism only becomes a problem when you mix it with socialism. That's how you make a Nazi. |
They wheren't socialists. They put socialists in concentration camps and their main enemies where the communist. Also as soon as Hitler rose to power he abolished all labor unions and ordered a wage freeze not something a true socialist would do. That fact is that the Nazi's where totalitarian fascist and the Thrid Reich was a fascists dictatorship. Anything that was socialist during the Third Reich wasn't implemented by the Nazi's but already there before the came to power. Universal health care for example began in Germany in the late 1880. That pre dates the founding of the Nazi Party by over 20 years.
thismeintiel said:
What radio program? And there's nothing wrong with her tweets, unless you're on the extreme left. Also, nationalism only becomes a problem when you mix it with socialism. That's how you make a Nazi. |
Also since Germany has more then two parties you in order to gain power and get things done you have to form coalitions with other parties and guess what the Nazi's never formed a coalition with the actual socialist party of Germany the SPD. As I mentioned earlier a lot of the members from the SPD actually ended up in concentration camps.
melbye said: Reading this thread i am convinced more than ever that way to many people either don't know or don't care what actual nazism is. Hint: it involves far more than racism. Look up totalitarianism |
But guess what the Nazi's never claimed to be totalitarians before they gained power in Germany but as soon as they gained power they became totalitarians by turning Germany into a one party state and outlawing all opposition parties.
Chris Hu said:
But guess what the Nazi's never claimed to be totalitarians before they gained power in Germany but as soon as they gained power they became totalitarians by turning Germany into a one party state and outlawing all opposition parties. |
which is what happens when you cede more and more power to the government under the pretense of providing more healthcare, more education, more security etc etc etc
eventually since it is PEOPLE who run the government, they inevitably misuse their power and overstep their boundaries
how else could it end up?
at least if its not centralised and there competition, service providers can be kept in check
Chris Hu said:
They wheren't socialists. They put socialists in concentration camps and their main enemies where the communist. Also as soon as Hitler rose to power he abolished all labor unions and ordered a wage freeze not something a true socialist would do. That fact is that the Nazi's where totalitarian fascist and the Thrid Reich was a fascists dictatorship. Anything that was socialist during the Third Reich wasn't implemented by the Nazi's but already there before the came to power. Universal health care for example began in Germany in the late 1880. That pre dates the founding of the Nazi Party by over 20 years. |
can you rationally explain how socialism is incompatible with totalitarianism or fascism?
if you cede power to a central body and that body becomes corrupt how does that not become totalitarianism or fascism?
you keep making these arguments and its kind of shocking how you never seem to progress to a better understanding of what you are talking about
you also neglected to mention that the vast majority of hitler's policies were socialist policies: healthcare for all, state funded education, extensive child care services etc etc etc
" They put socialists in concentration camps"
and so what? if a republican goes to jail while trump is president then he's not a republican?
"he abolished all labor unions"
i'll give you that
" and ordered a wage freeze not something a true socialist would do."
uh what? you do understand that wages are influenced by the economy right? and not political affiliation? i mean you can't pull money from up your butt and pay people with it... it obviously needs to come from production...
"Universal health care for example began in Germany in the late 1880."
and yet the nazis who supposedly were not socialists and would be opposed to it did not take it away? and you think this makes sense?
" Anything that was socialist during the Third Reich wasn't implemented by the Nazi's"
furthermore this is a lie... point to any other examples besides healthcare
and regardless ------> "and yet the nazis who supposedly were not socialists and would be opposed to it did not take it away? and you think this makes sense?"
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