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2014-2020 and beyond the golden age of gaming...

Yes. 9 16.67%
 
No. 40 74.07%
 
Maybe, I haven't though much about into it. 5 9.26%
 
Total:54
Angelus on 04 May 2018
Arminillo said:
Angelus said:

People get too caught up in the nostalgia of experiences they have in their formative years. The quality of things is generally always improving, but because we've sort of "seen it all" in terms of the types of stories and such, many people will get hung up on the certain inevitable derivativeness of the things that come after to appreciate it.

It's just how we are. That's why every single generation is always on about "back in my day!" Everything is always better "back in my day."

No just look at the comic book ages. The "Golden Age" of comics is not the best per se, but the most innovative and legendary properties were released.

90's gave us the birth of GTA, Crash, Chrono Trigger, FFVII, Goldeneye, Pokemon, Quake, Age of Empires, the beginning of online gaming, Link to the Past, Mario kart, Smash bros., Star Fox, Ocarina, 4 player multi, Gameboy and more.

Now we have some fantastic games coming out, but they are built on the foundations of that golden age.

I suppose that's a fair way of looking at it. I'm not really a comic book reader, but I like the analogy.



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Angelus on 04 May 2018
Arminillo said:
Angelus said:

People get too caught up in the nostalgia of experiences they have in their formative years. The quality of things is generally always improving, but because we've sort of "seen it all" in terms of the types of stories and such, many people will get hung up on the certain inevitable derivativeness of the things that come after to appreciate it.

It's just how we are. That's why every single generation is always on about "back in my day!" Everything is always better "back in my day."

"my day" was GBA/GC/PS2/XBOX. But I still recognize that gaming was at its most innovative in the 90s.

In fairness, that's not saying much, considering how young video games were as a medium.



Farsala on 04 May 2018
John2290 said:
I had no idea this would be so divisive, I thought everyone was having a blast this generation more so than generations past. It saddens me a little to see I am among the few who see it this way.

Eh its especially people who don't like certain console's dominance. They are still waiting for more.

I personally think this is one of the best gens if not the best, but we still have some years to go. It is already much better 7th gen. 6th gen and before are still debatable.



Azuren on 04 May 2018
John2290 said:

 

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The witcher 3

Divinity OS 

Nioh

Nier Automata

Horizon Zero dawn

Project CARS

Dirt Rally (both VR and non VR)

Dirt rally (VR)

Dirt rally (both vr and non vr)

Forza horizon series

Wipeout Collection

RE7 (VR)

Uncharted 4

Bloodborne

MGS5 GZ + TTP

God of War soft reboot

Persona 5

Dragon age inquisition.

Xcom 2 + war of the chosen

Overwatch

Killzone: Mercenaries

Rocket league

NexMachina

Resogun

Alienation

Monster Hunter World

Final fantasy 14 

Ori

Zelda BoTW 

Super Mario Oddessy 

Destiny 

Yakuza 0

Hell blade SS

Moss (VR)

Diablos updated ultimate evil edition + reaper of souls

Tombraider soft reboot

Doom soft rebbot

Shadow warrior

Darkest Dungeon

Crossed out all of the unimportant stuff that made zero impact. If you're going to make a list to justify a gaming golden age, don't populate it with B-list games.



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contestgamer on 04 May 2018
Angelus said:
contestgamer said:

I dont watch block busters, I dont like superhero movies, I dont like spectacle movies. I watch a lot of movies from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and even today, but not whats popular, just real classic quality films. I have 1,600+ movies rated on imdb. I'm fairly certain I've seen a whole lot more than you have. Quentin has not made a movie nearly as good as pulp fiction since then. You can look at imdb ratings as see nothing that he has done has even approached Pulp fiction since then. You can filter to see only the opinions of top 1000 voters, people that have seen thousands of movies, and you'll get the same result. 

It's obvious that you base your opinions on spectacle. Because film is a medium based on script and acting. There is absolutely no reason movies today would be any better except for technical advancements. You yourself were the one to bring up technical advancement as to why todays media is better than the past - so in other words you base your opinion off spectacle. I'm guessing new books are better than old ones too right? I mean books today have nicer, shinier covers. That's technical advancement right there. Shakespeare, who is that?

Don't know if you realize this, but most people don't go online to rate everything they watch. Now, I don't know exactly how many movies I've seen in my life, but I grew up with a father who bought literally every movie that touched shelves for the better part of a decade, so by the time I was 12 or so we had well over a thousand different movies around the house. I watched a great many of them, and a great many since. Plenty in any case, and I've never felt bothered to go rate any of them.

The book comparison is ridiculous, which you well know. It's equally ridiculous to suggest that technical advancements, and spectacle aren't hugely important for movies. It's a visual medium. The experience of seeing a movie today is NOTHING like seeing a movie decades ago, and that's a damn good thing. Fortunately for us, most of the classics have been remastered as best as possible. 

You're essentially equating bigger screens, HD and other technical aspects with movies being better. These are all superfluous. It makes me think your some kind of Marvel fan that cares CGI and spectacle more than actual script and acting. Tell me that Jurassic world is better than JP? New alien better than original? There's virtually no remakes I can think of that approach the originals in quality, and it all comes down to script, pacing and acting.



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contestgamer on 04 May 2018
John2290 said:
I had no idea this would be so divisive, I thought everyone was having a blast this generation more so than generations past. It saddens me a little to see I am among the few who see it this way.

Snes/Genesis + N64/PS1 IMO was just so much more impactful I think anyone that played those when they came out would agree.



contestgamer on 04 May 2018
John2290 said:
contestgamer said:

Snes/Genesis + N64/PS1 IMO was just so much more impactful I think anyone that played those when they came out would agree.

I could say that about PS1 as it blew my mind coming from comadore 64 and NES into ps1 games but I know looking back that was the mind of a child being blown and it would take a lot more these days. This gen however is doing just that. Nostalgia...ah. What a cruel, fucking lie it is.

Its not really nostalgia, its about how it made you feel at the time that you played it and how good was it for its time. Ps1/n64 games for their time would more mind blowing than games are today, so they would elicit a bigger response from the gamer regardless of nostalgia. Ultimately youre playing mental gymnastics if you're trying to figure out what % of your judgement is nostalgia and what isnt, in the end it comes down to which games did you enjoy the most at the time you played them.



Azuren on 04 May 2018
John2290 said:
Azuren said:

Crossed out all of the unimportant stuff that made zero impact. If you're going to make a list to justify a gaming golden age, don't populate it with B-list games.

What are ya talking about, The house Marque trio had majour impact, Nex machina among them praised as the most polished bullet hell game of all time by many. Dirt rally revolutionized Sim racing rallies games again after so many years of stale arcade games and crappy licenced titles not to mention makes the best VR racer. Shadow warrior brought back the fast paced, doom like FPS and brought it to console gaming before doom rebooted and could well have been a waypoint for dooms dev to use to test the market reception. Moss's innovation in VR art work is astounding and praised as one of the must have VR titles. Project CARS marked the end of a track sim racing monopolies on consoles by Forza and GT and brought other PC racer studios to enter the console market, not to mention it was crowd funded in such a unique way. Maybe you need to take a better look into the games on that list or broaden your horizon in gaming. The only one there that is questionable is darkest dungeon but I think It deserves a spot for not giving into casuals and getting everything right the funders asked for and yet, still making an accessible, fair and balanced game in the genre but being hard as balls at the same time, you may not realize but the game garnered excellent praise and awards. 

And the public at large either didn't notice or didn't care.



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FragileSurface on 04 May 2018

So far the Golden Age was easily 360/PS3 era.

Two Elder Scrolls games
Two Fallout games
Three Mass Effect games
Three Dragon Age games

I could name many more but those games alone are enough to eclipse the current era.



SvennoJ on 04 May 2018
contestgamer said:
Angelus said:

Don't know if you realize this, but most people don't go online to rate everything they watch. Now, I don't know exactly how many movies I've seen in my life, but I grew up with a father who bought literally every movie that touched shelves for the better part of a decade, so by the time I was 12 or so we had well over a thousand different movies around the house. I watched a great many of them, and a great many since. Plenty in any case, and I've never felt bothered to go rate any of them.

The book comparison is ridiculous, which you well know. It's equally ridiculous to suggest that technical advancements, and spectacle aren't hugely important for movies. It's a visual medium. The experience of seeing a movie today is NOTHING like seeing a movie decades ago, and that's a damn good thing. Fortunately for us, most of the classics have been remastered as best as possible. 

You're essentially equating bigger screens, HD and other technical aspects with movies being better. These are all superfluous. It makes me think your some kind of Marvel fan that cares CGI and spectacle more than actual script and acting. Tell me that Jurassic world is better than JP? New alien better than original? There's virtually no remakes I can think of that approach the originals in quality, and it all comes down to script, pacing and acting.

Couldn't agree more about movies, I watch far less nowadays. However TV shows have gotten much better, my current favorite is The Expanse and I also just started watching West world. CGI is helping a lot with immersion there. New Battlestar Galactica was also a lot better than the original.

Movies are just ugh. I still have to watch the Blade runner remake, it's probably very pretty yet I just don't feel like watching it. The original is so good in pacing and atmosphere. Movies nowadays are less immersive to me as they are so over the top with impossible stunts and cgi it's just so unbelievable. Can't wait to see the next Tarantino movie though.