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Aeolus451 said:
Tulipanzo said:

I'm sorry the leftists are being mean to you on the internet, must be rough

I think that you're confusing right leaning and left leaning people.

Are they bullying you too by posting bad reviews?



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Tulipanzo said:
Aeolus451 said:

I think that you're confusing right leaning and left leaning people.

Are they bullying you too by posting bad reviews?

I haven't seem claims of bully, but of lying... and there have been plenty of sources posted on the thread if you so much care about looking at them.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Tulipanzo said:
Aeolus451 said:

I think that you're confusing right leaning and left leaning people.

Are they bullying you too by posting bad reviews?

Again, you're confusing right leaning and left leaning people. I'm just pointing out sjws arguing for and doing stupid shit. He's literally whining about how people of color aren't in the game, women are portrayed in the game and not challenging everything in a progressive way even though progressive stupidity didn't exist then. Boo fucking hoo.



Pemalite said:
potato_hamster said:

 

Of course your source doesn't contradict my claims. That's what I've been saying the entire time.

Except...

And I quote you here:

potato_hamster said:

It totally does, and I'll leave you to figure it out, since "The scientific evidence I have presented has citations. I highly suggest you peruse them as that would answer your questions in full".

K. Thanks.

So which is it?

 I made two claims.

- You cannot tell someone's country of origin from a single picture. You have not come close to contradicting this claim.

- You claim that skin tone can be used to determine the "region" some was from made a decision to define "indigenous people" using arbitrary assumptions. This is obvious since "indigenous" means "originated from an area", and we all know that humans as a species originated in Africa and migrated out afterwards. It should go without saying, but you can't both migrate to an area and be indigenous to it.


Those quotes you cherry picked are referring two different claims.

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potato_hamster said:
Pemalite said:

Except...

And I quote you here:

So which is it?

 I made two claims.

- You cannot tell someone's country of origin from a single picture. You have not come close to contradicting this claim.

- You claim that skin tone can be used to determine the "region" some was from made a decision to define "indigenous people" using arbitrary assumptions. This is obvious since "indigenous" means "originated from an area", and we all know that humans as a species originated in Africa and migrated out afterwards. It should go without saying, but you can't both migrate to an area and be indigenous to it.


Those quotes you cherry picked are referring two different claims.

If you really want to push the narrative on the indigenous them we can go way back and change even more and say all human generated from the ocean so don't twist the point, and even considering humanity originated from Africa, the Caucasian have some mix with Neanderthal and also the physical traits differentiated from the thousand of years some population settled in different places.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:
potato_hamster said:

 I made two claims.

- You cannot tell someone's country of origin from a single picture. You have not come close to contradicting this claim.

- You claim that skin tone can be used to determine the "region" some was from made a decision to define "indigenous people" using arbitrary assumptions. This is obvious since "indigenous" means "originated from an area", and we all know that humans as a species originated in Africa and migrated out afterwards. It should go without saying, but you can't both migrate to an area and be indigenous to it.


Those quotes you cherry picked are referring two different claims.

If you really want to push the narrative on the indigenous them we can go way back and change even more and say all human generated from the ocean so don't twist the point, and even considering humanity originated from Africa, the Caucasian have some mix with Neanderthal and also the physical traits differentiated from the thousand of years some population settled in different places.

I'm not pushing any narrative other than his source arbitrarily chose what the "indigenous peoples" of say "Europe" were when that went through what? hundreds if not thousands of changes over the past 20,000 years? At the end of the day those who created the report took some snapshot of history and declared these people in these areas at this time are going to be considered the "indigenous peoples of that area". If the researchers instead decided on a snapshot 2000 years earlier, the chart might look dramatically different. 

Of course I'm not saying that we should go back to the origin of the species and say some such nonsense like "we are all indigenous to Africa". That's fucking ridiculous.



potato_hamster said:
DonFerrari said:

If you really want to push the narrative on the indigenous them we can go way back and change even more and say all human generated from the ocean so don't twist the point, and even considering humanity originated from Africa, the Caucasian have some mix with Neanderthal and also the physical traits differentiated from the thousand of years some population settled in different places.

I'm not pushing any narrative other than his source arbitrarily chose what the "indigenous peoples" of say "Europe" were when that went through what? hundreds if not thousands of changes over the past 20,000 years? At the end of the day those who created the report took some snapshot of history and declared these people in these areas at this time are going to be considered the "indigenous peoples of that area". If the researchers instead decided on a snapshot 2000 years earlier, the chart might look dramatically different. 

Of course I'm not saying that we should go back to the origin of the species and say some such nonsense like "we are all indigenous to Africa". That's fucking ridiculous.

Sure I agree the snapshot "timestamp" will vary greatly (as someone found evidence of black people indigenous to UK several centuries back). But I think that when we consider the context of this discussion and what we consider "European" people... then we already have somewhat of a time restriction that kinda validate the thesis of the average skin color of the indigenous population similar to the graphic.

I'm glad we agree that it was just some exaggeration to make the point clear.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
potato_hamster said:

I'm not pushing any narrative other than his source arbitrarily chose what the "indigenous peoples" of say "Europe" were when that went through what? hundreds if not thousands of changes over the past 20,000 years? At the end of the day those who created the report took some snapshot of history and declared these people in these areas at this time are going to be considered the "indigenous peoples of that area". If the researchers instead decided on a snapshot 2000 years earlier, the chart might look dramatically different. 

Of course I'm not saying that we should go back to the origin of the species and say some such nonsense like "we are all indigenous to Africa". That's fucking ridiculous.

Sure I agree the snapshot "timestamp" will vary greatly (as someone found evidence of black people indigenous to UK several centuries back). But I think that when we consider the context of this discussion and what we consider "European" people... then we already have somewhat of a time restriction that kinda validate the thesis of the average skin color of the indigenous population similar to the graphic.

I'm glad we agree that it was just some exaggeration to make the point clear.

Just to clarify, when I said "Europe" above, I was referring to the land mass that we now call Europe. It's been fought over, occupied, reoccupied by thousands of different groups of people etc for millennia.



potato_hamster said:
DonFerrari said:

Sure I agree the snapshot "timestamp" will vary greatly (as someone found evidence of black people indigenous to UK several centuries back). But I think that when we consider the context of this discussion and what we consider "European" people... then we already have somewhat of a time restriction that kinda validate the thesis of the average skin color of the indigenous population similar to the graphic.

I'm glad we agree that it was just some exaggeration to make the point clear.

Just to clarify, when I said "Europe" above, I was referring to the land mass that we now call Europe. It's been fought over, occupied, reoccupied by thousands of different groups of people etc for millennia.

I understood this, but I'm talking about the context of the thread... on this context it makes sense to restrict the timeline to near the 1400



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
potato_hamster said:

Just to clarify, when I said "Europe" above, I was referring to the land mass that we now call Europe. It's been fought over, occupied, reoccupied by thousands of different groups of people etc for millennia.

I understood this, but I'm talking about the context of the thread... on this context it makes sense to restrict the timeline to near the 1400

Ohh I apologize. I see what you meant now.

That's what the crux of the issue surrounding the game has always been about. The game authors say - in this area near 1400, according to the historians they consulted, there doesn't appear to be any historical evidence that there were any black people living in the area.