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TheLegendaryWolf on 02 February 2018

A Switch XL/Pro/Ultra is bound to happen sooner or later, a "refresh" usually helps in maintaining momentum, aside from amazing games and  exceptional advertising of course.



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zorg1000 on 03 February 2018
DélioPT said:
xMetroid said:

Right cause Switch isn't making records while being underpowered against 4k gaming while being 720p/1080p... It Doesn't Even Have the Price argument cause It's more expensive then some PS4/XBOX deals.

 

When Next Gen arrives, It will atleast have a killer lineup and pricing and probably a revision.

 

At this point, Power isnt that Important. Its not like The Wii vs PS360 problem where the Wii wasn't HD in an age when it was everywhere. 4k will never have even a slice of that impact.

 

Also, Switch Is now being sold as 1 per Person and not 1 per Home. Which signal a more portable device...

 

Yes, Switch is doing very well, but what's helping it won't last forever.
So far it is and people want a Switch for that and of course, Zelda, Mario, MK 8D, etc, the same way they wanted motion gaming.

Both portability and 1st year line-up's effect won't last forever.
When PS5 and XB4 arrive, they will be the new consoles full of possibilities, new experiences in the years to come. And either Switch has what it takes to fight them in their promises, novelty and shiny new graphics or it will suffer.

The power gap might be big enough to make devs decide to focus their resources on the new machines instead of wasting them to port to Switch - or try to.

We can see it having a good library filled with Nintendo games, but good enough to fight new consoles, when most of Nintendo's games already reached most of it's potential consumers?...
Pricing is no longer a big factor to decide if transition will happen slower or faster. People bought the PS4 in droves despite the 400$ price tag.

Power is not a selling factor, per se, but it really is a great marketing tool! And at the end of they day, perception probably sells as many consoles as the actual games.
Also, have you forgotten how much criticismo XB1 got because the version it got of quite a few games weren't on par with the PS4 version?
And for devs, power makes all the difference.

"Also, Switch Is now being sold as 1 per Person and not 1 per Home. Which signal a more portable device..."
That's due to it's nature not the fact that it's being  sold and perceived as a portable. It's the opposite.

You keep using the same argument that Switch will suffer once PS5/XB4 release because devs wont be able to downport games to it.

Please name me a single Nintendo device that was successful because of multiplatform releases.



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zorg1000 on 03 February 2018

Resident Evil 7
For Honor
Mass Effect
Ghost Recon
Prey
Injustice 2
Tekken 7
Madden
Shadow of Mordor
Evil Within 2
Destiny 2
South Park
Wolfenstein
Assassin's Creed
Call of Duty
Need for Speed
Battlefront 2
Monster Hunter World
Dragonball FighterZ

Almost every major multiplatform PS4/XBO title in the last year has skipped Switch yet missing out on PS5/XB4 will be the death blow......



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Kai_Mao on 03 February 2018

Are Sony and Microsoft that in a hurry to release their next generation consoles since people keeping mentioning it?



TheBraveGallade on 03 February 2018

Lol these noobs.

When the graphics bubble bursts, these inflated dev costs due to a graphics arms race, who will still be standing? Nintendo.
Nintedo might get games simply because its cheaper to develop for.
Also there is the fact that the comsole market is basically half-japanese and thouse devs do NOT likeupping ghraphics and love portability.cross out square enix, bandai namco, sega, and konami and a myriad of japanese devs from exclusivity and what does the UHD twins have left? All though games that come out on pc anyway...



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EricFabian on 03 February 2018
zorg1000 said:

You keep using the same argument that Switch will suffer once PS5/XB4 release because devs wont be able to downport games to it.

Please name me a single Nintendo device that was successful because of multiplatform releases.

SNES



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Miyamotoo on 03 February 2018
Hiku said:
Miyamotoo said:

That totaly make sense because Switch is Nintendo unified platform, and it will have multiply revisons with possibility of Switch Pro/Switch2 or similar that will probably support same games (look at PS4 Pro and Xbox X).

I believe what Pagan is asking is how will Switch be able to get ports of games designed for PS5/XB2.
A Switch Pro wouldn't help in that regard, because as you said, the games for Switch Pro would still need to run properly on vanilla Switch.

But on that note, in the beginning games developed for PS5 will often be cross generation back to PS4, as per usual.
Although the jury is still out on how well Switch can handle ports of high end PS4 games that don't already run at 60f. But this along with the idea that Sony and MS won't necessarily rush out their next consoles, but take their time with this generation, could be favorable for everyone.

Well base PS4 and Xbox S are getting games despite Pro and X. And at end everything is about profit, if Switch sales and Switch games are still selling some 3rd party will definitely still port some games to Switch despite PS5/XB2.



HoangNhatAnh on 03 February 2018
EricFabian said:
zorg1000 said:

You keep using the same argument that Switch will suffer once PS5/XB4 release because devs wont be able to downport games to it.

Please name me a single Nintendo device that was successful because of multiplatform releases.

SNES

Remove all first party games on SNES and see what happen



Green098 on 03 February 2018
HoangNhatAnh said:
EricFabian said:

SNES

Remove all first party games on SNES and see what happen

Remove all first party games on any console and see what happens. A console needs 1st party as well as third party to be a success. A bigger 1st party can make up for a smaller third party however, but's good to have a steady flow of both.

 

Anyway I don't see why the Switch isn't as powerful as any potential PS5 or Xbox Two means it won't get third party support. The Switch isn't as powerful as the current PS4 and Xbox One and it's getting the best third party support for a Nintendo console in years. If the Switch sells well, what reason is there for devs not to make titles built from the ground of or at least in mind of Switch's hardware?

For the Switch to stay competitive as a handheld it's fine for the next 8 years. I do think they'll need an updated system to truly keep the home console hybrid point going by 2025 however. I still think it would sell of course, Nintendo's handhelds do amazing. I just think the home console side would be very hindered compared to the handheld side by then. 

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zorg1000 on 03 February 2018
EricFabian said:
zorg1000 said:

You keep using the same argument that Switch will suffer once PS5/XB4 release because devs wont be able to downport games to it.

Please name me a single Nintendo device that was successful because of multiplatform releases.

SNES

Which multiplatform titles would those be?

It was Nintendo IP and 3rd party exclusives that sold SNES.

SNES had 48 games that sold over 1 million, the only ones that were also on Genesis were the Mortal Kombat games, a couple Dinsey games and NBA Jam.



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