We know MS will survive. They have like.... so much money bro.

Good luck with your fishing, though. 

I don't fish, I game. That's why I support a hobby, not the financial status of a multi-billion dollar corporation.

So funny to see so many people complaining about a pro consumer decision from MS saying that "they want all the money for themselves" lol!!

Imagine if Sony or Nintendo did something like Game Pass but before MS did it... Everyone in this forum would be like: OMG I love Sony/Nintendo so much, they want the consumers to pay less for games because they love us and they love the gaming community!! LOL

But no, since it is a decision taken by MicroSoft and Xbox, then it is bad decision and both gamers and retail stores should boycott it because it will damage the gaming community and blah blah blah

Has anyone in this thread been “supporting the financial status” of Microsoft? You seem to be picking arguments all through the thread that don’t exist except in your mind.

For all the subscribe and get free games model that they started with their instant game collection.now microsoft copied the same and taking it to a new level.there are like more subscription service  on xbox one than actual exclusives games which is just shame.again i blame both ms and sony for these kind of unnecessary services.

It's actually implied.  Everyone has their own console and gaming preferences, and that's fine.  But you have to wonder, why is "user" so adamantly in defense of the "console" beyond reasoning?  In the case of Microsoft, I have came across users with the mentality that Microsoft being one of the richest companies on the planet equates to "best-console-on-the-market-hands-down." These sort of people typically associate themselves with the company more than anything. So when you "offend" the company/product, you offend them.  And you apparently responded in similar fashion.  But you want to talk about "arguments all through the thread that don’t exist except in your mind." Then turn your justice seeking detector to TheTruthHurts!'s with his sarcastic claim of others of "MS BAD........blah, blah....." as if Microsoft doesn't do anything wrong, and no one is allows to voice a POV that is otherwise pro-Microsoft.  But then again, you guys are Xbox buddies so...

And sales of physical titles for both Sony's and Nintendo's consoles are doing quite well.

I responded as if Microsoft was offended, and by extension myself, because some independent game retailer in a country I don’t live in is going to stop selling Xbones? lol

I really don’t know if it’s possible to make a more cringe friendly post here on teh Chartz than what I just read. It’s as bad as that FFXIII post quoted on GAF for years. You’re trying to make masterful chess moves while the thread is playing checkers. 

I have no idea who this person is you’re referencing or what console he plays, but feel free to continue your console warz. I did see his post, I assumed it was in reference to how Microsoft discussion usually turns out here. Feel free to ask him instead of just making assumptions, friend :)

Physical sales of games are still extremely high, don't think it'll ever be digital only future or at least I hope not. For example, CDs and DVD/BluRay still exist despite online services/apps and piracy cannibalizing sales for about a decade now.  While niche, Vinyl Record sales have hit a new high in 2017 despite it being an outdated type of media (source below), so its safe to say physical games aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2018/01/us-vinyl-album-sales-hit-record-high-in-2017.html

Again, the problem is you are looking at the CURRENT generation. I'm looking at the FUTURE generation.

We are in year 5 of PS4 and XBox One's life. The new systems will probably be out next year. In the normal lifecycle for a console, the last year or two is about gearing up for the next generation. If you look at Microsoft, would you say they are building momentum or losing it? Does Microsoft look better now then they did a year or two ago and the answer is no. 2017 was a year full of canceled projects and delays. 2018 doesn't look much better. Microsoft has a good holiday, but a lot of that was due to the improving economy, not necessarily good business sense on the part of Microsoft. At the end of the Wii U's life, Nintendo made it very clear what their intention was and still pushed out projects for the system as they geared up for the Switch. Microsoft is stalling out, not gearing up.

What you are focused on is current sales, not what Microsoft is going to look like in Gen 9 if they will even be around then? 35 million is not a great number, to be honest. It's pretty weak coming off Microsoft's most successful system. That means they need to be improving. The late stages of a generation are a good measure of the next. Nintendo and Sony both showed this with their failed systems. Microsoft is showing they are weakening, not strengthening. 

Moreover, you don't understand the business of Nintendo and Microsoft. Nintendo always has a large reserve of cash on hand which allows them to reposition when the market doesn't go their way. Microsoft is a massive corporation who's bottom line is not video games but Operating System and Application. Does Microsoft want to put in the billions to design, market, manufacture and supply a new system if they are only going to sell 35 million? Moreover, XBox is not profitable and never has been. Microsoft hides XBox with Skype to mask that the money it makes is low and isn't enough to cover fixed cost. This article does a good job of explaining: (https://learnbonds.com/122889/microsoft-corporation-msft-loses-money-on-xbox-one-sales/). Here is a tech journalist saying something similar. (https://www.petri.com/paul-thurrotts-short-takes-microsoft-earnings-special-edition-7). And, of course, this has been a long-term issue with XBox losing 3 billion over 10 years. (https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-xbox-division-has-lost-nearly-3-billion-in-10-years). So how is Microsoft going to turn XBox around if 2017 was bad, they are less than 50 percent of their chief competitor and the division loses billions. 

That said, my argument has been primarily about consumer retention. From what I'm seeing, Microsoft doesn't have that. You mention sales a lot, but the next XBox needs to do BETTER than that, not the same. If there is little interest in XBox now, will there be any in the future. Nintendo can at least hold on to their diehard fans and have always had a successful handheld line. Microsoft doesn't even have that. This company can't even get a game out.  My expectation is they wont or they'll leave. 

You can disagree with me on the Wii U if you like, but games make or break a console. The Switch would not have done well if Zelda wasn't such a hit. It's the software that makes or breaks a system. It's also why I'm critical of Nintendo's early 2018 which is full of games that didn't help the Wii U.