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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 VS Switch lifetime sales, which console will sell the most?

 

What do you expect?

NSW will win by a huge margin 53 16.06%
 
NSW will win by a small margin 75 22.73%
 
PS4 will win by a small margin 75 22.73%
 
PS4 will win by a huge margin 117 35.45%
 
Sorry, no troll XB1 option. :P Oh wait... 10 3.03%
 
Total:330
zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

dude are you ok? wii had a shit december 600k is bad it was selling near that on regular months, same for 360, how can you call those sales good, what you think if wii and 360 launched in march they couldn't sell better then those pathetic numbers during the holiday's, if so you are delusional.

Never did i say anything about those numbers being good or bad, i said they were relatively stable from Nov.

 

All Nov launches see stable 2nd month sales, all Spring launches see huge 2nd month drops. This has remained true regardless of stock.

 in the end the holidays were not advantages for those consoles, so whats the difference? because the wii and 360 could have sold that much in the first week  of launch with out the holidays get it?



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My guess right now?

Sony PlayStation 4: 110 million
Nintendo Switch: 90 million

This is expecting PS5 in 2020 and Switch successor in 2023.



Nymeria said:
My guess right now?

Sony PlayStation 4: 110 million
Nintendo Switch: 90 million

This is expecting PS5 in 2020 and Switch successor in 2023.

I kind agree with this.



zorg1000 said:
Intrinsic said:

Oooohhh.... so you are now in the camp that since nintendo was releasing in march thats why they didn't plan to make more consoles? How do you know this? what evidence is there to show that nintendo (especially) in the case of teh switch could have just whipped up more consoles if they wanted? Weren't they even originally to launch in 2016? I mean... the console had been hinted by nintendo themselves since 2014 i think or was it sooner. But somehow, they just ended up releasing as many consoles as every other manufacturer that is doing well tends to release in the same time period..... even while they were downplaying their expectations?

So we are no longer dealing with facts but instead with conjecture?

Ok... can you tell me a time when nintendo (or any other console manufacturer for that matter) had shipped more than 3/4M consoles in the launch week?

None of this is making any sense, when did i say Nintendo would magically of whipped up more consoles if launched in Nov?

When the fuck did anybody say a console manufacturer has shipped 3/4M launch week and what does that have to do with anything?

Youre trying to get me to defend things i have never said.

 

Everybody knows people are WAAAAYYYYYY more willing to spend hundreds of dollars on gaming in Dec compared to April hence why a console manufacturer will plan accordingly and have more units available with a holiday launch compared to a spring launch.

Look at miyamoto post where he think Switch would sell more on holiday launch because nintendo would plan and produce more.

zorg1000 said:
Intrinsic said:

I'm lost..... so all that data suggest what exactly? 

The consoles had limited stock? Cause  what I am seeing is a drop in all those consoles second month. I don't see how that refutes my claim.... they still sold all the stock they had available. They just had less stock the following month than the month prior. With exception to the Wii (and there is a reason why things like that happens too).

Lets just leave this alone though. At this point theer is no need to continue. I believe we have all put our cards on the table, everyone will believe what they wanna believe.

I said relative stability, PS4 had a 2nd month drop of about 25%, Wii had an increase of about 25%, 360 had a drop of under 15%.

Her are some other Nov launches

GC Nov 2001-660k

GC Dec 2001-570k

 

Xbox Nov 2001-720k

Xbox Dec 2001-700k

 

Again all Nov launches have a relatively stable 2nd month regardless of stock issues.

Here are the drops for Spring launches

Switch March 2017-900k

Switch April 2017-280k

 

3DS March 2011-400k

3DS April 2011-190k

 

GBA June 2001-880k

GBA July 2001-360k

 

 

Nov launches see Dec sales roughly the same while Spring launches see 50-70% declines.

How could Switch sell more on April if there wasn't any excess stock for the next 7 months?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
zorg1000 said:

None of this is making any sense, when did i say Nintendo would magically of whipped up more consoles if launched in Nov?

When the fuck did anybody say a console manufacturer has shipped 3/4M launch week and what does that have to do with anything?

Youre trying to get me to defend things i have never said.

 

Everybody knows people are WAAAAYYYYYY more willing to spend hundreds of dollars on gaming in Dec compared to April hence why a console manufacturer will plan accordingly and have more units available with a holiday launch compared to a spring launch.

Look at miyamoto post where he think Switch would sell more on holiday launch because nintendo would plan and produce more.

zorg1000 said:

I said relative stability, PS4 had a 2nd month drop of about 25%, Wii had an increase of about 25%, 360 had a drop of under 15%.

Her are some other Nov launches

GC Nov 2001-660k

GC Dec 2001-570k

 

Xbox Nov 2001-720k

Xbox Dec 2001-700k

 

Again all Nov launches have a relatively stable 2nd month regardless of stock issues.

Here are the drops for Spring launches

Switch March 2017-900k

Switch April 2017-280k

 

3DS March 2011-400k

3DS April 2011-190k

 

GBA June 2001-880k

GBA July 2001-360k

 

 

Nov launches see Dec sales roughly the same while Spring launches see 50-70% declines.

How could Switch sell more on April if there wasn't any excess stock for the next 7 months?

he seems to think that launching in holidays means having more supply, when we have showed him over, and over again, it's not the case

 



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Switch. Nintendo will release several iterations down the road which will have a significant number of they userbase double dippig (handheld focused version/ $99 stand alone console box etc),



DonFerrari said:
zorg1000 said:

None of this is making any sense, when did i say Nintendo would magically of whipped up more consoles if launched in Nov?

When the fuck did anybody say a console manufacturer has shipped 3/4M launch week and what does that have to do with anything?

Youre trying to get me to defend things i have never said.

 

Everybody knows people are WAAAAYYYYYY more willing to spend hundreds of dollars on gaming in Dec compared to April hence why a console manufacturer will plan accordingly and have more units available with a holiday launch compared to a spring launch.

Look at miyamoto post where he think Switch would sell more on holiday launch because nintendo would plan and produce more.

zorg1000 said:

I said relative stability, PS4 had a 2nd month drop of about 25%, Wii had an increase of about 25%, 360 had a drop of under 15%.

Her are some other Nov launches

GC Nov 2001-660k

GC Dec 2001-570k

 

Xbox Nov 2001-720k

Xbox Dec 2001-700k

 

Again all Nov launches have a relatively stable 2nd month regardless of stock issues.

Here are the drops for Spring launches

Switch March 2017-900k

Switch April 2017-280k

 

3DS March 2011-400k

3DS April 2011-190k

 

GBA June 2001-880k

GBA July 2001-360k

 

 

Nov launches see Dec sales roughly the same while Spring launches see 50-70% declines.

How could Switch sell more on April if there wasn't any excess stock for the next 7 months?

Did i say they could?

You have to ask why did Nintendo plan to ship such a small number in its 2nd month? The reason is because history has shown that a console that launches in Spring will quickly drop to its baseline sales.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
DonFerrari said:

Look at miyamoto post where he think Switch would sell more on holiday launch because nintendo would plan and produce more.

How could Switch sell more on April if there wasn't any excess stock for the next 7 months?

Did i say they could?

You have to ask why did Nintendo plan to ship such a small number in its 2nd month? The reason is because history has shown that a console that launches in Spring will quickly drop to its baseline sales.

And they kept doing that for another 6 months after release even with everywhere short supplied and overdemand... yes that makes so much sense.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
zorg1000 said:

Did i say they could?

You have to ask why did Nintendo plan to ship such a small number in its 2nd month? The reason is because history has shown that a console that launches in Spring will quickly drop to its baseline sales.

And they kept doing that for another 6 months after release even with everywhere short supplied and overdemand... yes that makes so much sense.

Well you cant just push a magical "extra million units button" and they didnt just have a shitload already made and ready to ship that they were hoarding. They had to deal with the amount they were able to produce which would have been based on contracts they made with suppliers.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
DonFerrari said:

And they kept doing that for another 6 months after release even with everywhere short supplied and overdemand... yes that makes so much sense.

Well you cant just push a magical "extra million units button" and they didnt just have a shitload already made and ready to ship that they were hoarding. They had to deal with the amount they were able to produce which would have been based on contracts they made with suppliers.

Which is our point to deny that launching in the holiday would have changed much the situation of Switch sales.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."