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Birimbau on 17 November 2017

How low MSM goes in desperation for readers, as more and more people are driving away to alternative media.



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bigjon on 18 November 2017
sethnintendo said:
bigjon said:

cracked down on illegal immigration, reduced regulations across the board for businesses are the 2 main things I am happy with. It is already showing results. GDP growth is doing very well. I guess I a magic wand did exist. 

 

Since the Johnson there has been a process of presidents doing things that are not in the best interest of the US. Trump is the first president since Kennedy that seems to weigh every decision with a lens of "what is best for the US". This is also why the republicans and the democrats hate him, they all make decisions with a priority of what is best for the entire world with and have made terrible decisions for the US over the past 50 years "for the betterment of mankind". 

GDP was going on same growth at end of Obama's turn.  He didn't inherit a turd and instead got a decent humming along economy to begin with.  Let's not pat ourselves on the back too much now.  Sure wall street is inflated more now because they are banking on the tax cuts but lets not kid ourselves.  There are some very well off companies making bank even without tax cuts.  Hell with all the loopholes there are even some companies that actually have a negative tax rate, but please let as close all deductions from individual tax payer while lower the corporate tax rate and still not closing the deduction and loopholes of business.  It's all for the middle class. 

possible. It is also possible that because of Bush/ Obama that Wall Street was depressed and we are seeing a market correction. 

The tax cuts are big IMO. You can see the effect that corporate tax rates have between the states(for instance South Carolina has laws that make them very enticing to companies and have landed scores corporate developments), the same applies between nations. 



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sethnintendo on 18 November 2017
bigjon said:
sethnintendo said:

GDP was going on same growth at end of Obama's turn.  He didn't inherit a turd and instead got a decent humming along economy to begin with.  Let's not pat ourselves on the back too much now.  Sure wall street is inflated more now because they are banking on the tax cuts but lets not kid ourselves.  There are some very well off companies making bank even without tax cuts.  Hell with all the loopholes there are even some companies that actually have a negative tax rate, but please let as close all deductions from individual tax payer while lower the corporate tax rate and still not closing the deduction and loopholes of business.  It's all for the middle class. 

possible. It is also possible that because of Bush/ Obama that Wall Street was depressed and we are seeing a market correction. 

The tax cuts are big IMO. You can see the effect that corporate tax rates have between the states(for instance South Carolina has laws that make them very enticing to companies and have landed scores corporate developments), the same applies between nations. 

You don't know shit about the stock market do you?  The stock market has been steadily rising for years.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/09/investing/stocks-bull-market-turns-seven/index.html

You know since it hit rock bottom after the 08 crash...

Let me just give you a stock for example.  U haul stock (truck and storage rental, aka used for moving).  Look at their stock.  Right about 2009 it went from 37 dollars a share to current 353 dollars a share.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/UHAL/

Now there is a company that would have been nice to invest in 2009.

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sundin13 on 18 November 2017
bigjon said:
sethnintendo said:

Explain to me what exactly he has done because I'm having trouble finding that out.

cracked down on illegal immigration, reduced regulations across the board for businesses are the 2 main things I am happy with. It is already showing results. GDP growth is doing very well. I guess I a magic wand did exist.

I see people touting deregulation a lot, but pretty much all of the deregulatory measures that have been in the news have been (in my opinion) poor decisions regarding the environment. Beyond that, I am unable to find a detailed list of the regulations that have been cut. Are you basing your assessment simply on the principle that regulation is bad (and if so, that is a point I would very much disagree with), or are there specific changes being made that you support?

Also, it has already been mentioned, but there really hasn't been a large scale significant change in GDP growth and projections for Trump's tax plan have it having a fairly minor impact.



i love xbox 360 on 29 November 2017

So Trump just retweeted far right tweets by Britain First...he really is a fool.



 

 

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StarOcean on 29 November 2017

He still needs to implement he sanctions he was told to do by Congress. The deadline was Oct 1st. The sanctions are still not in place. And his admin has dismantled the sanctions office. Congress needs to do something



i love xbox 360 on 29 November 2017
StarOcean said:
He still needs to implement he sanctions he was told to do by Congress. The deadline was Oct 1st. The sanctions are still not in place. And his admin has dismantled the sanctions office. Congress needs to do something

He needs to go, it’s as simple as that. 



 

 

StarOcean on 29 November 2017
i love xbox 360 said:
StarOcean said:
He still needs to implement he sanctions he was told to do by Congress. The deadline was Oct 1st. The sanctions are still not in place. And his admin has dismantled the sanctions office. Congress needs to do something

He needs to go, it’s as simple as that. 

As someone else said, he's also retweeted far right fringe group shit today. Anti-Muslim propaganda, which is giving the A-OK to racist hate groups to attack Muslims. The upside is this can and will be used to fight any future travel bans 



Nymeria on 29 November 2017
i love xbox 360 said:
So Trump just retweeted far right tweets by Britain First...he really is a fool.

I'd like to see a experiment of how warped reality is right now by having people asked about a dozen or so news stories and how their views on it.  We've had followers do this, but the degree to which a president has pushed it is staggering and pushes how difficult it will be for people to have discussions about current events.



Ucouldntbemorewrong on 29 November 2017

More like one below Nixon, Trump is Turkey Garbage.