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Forums - Sales Discussion - September 2017 NPD Thread! Switch #1

DaveTheMinion13 on 19 October 2017

Switch and PS4 must still be neck and neck, been like that since April. If Switch is killing it, than Xbox One and PS4 were serial killers when they launched



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StarDoor on 19 October 2017
DaveTheMinion13 said:
Slarvax said:

To be fair, the Wii U did pretty good at launch. If "pretty good" means being outsold by every other system except the Vita and the DS in it's first 2 months, that is.

Seriously, people don't understand how much of a gigantic failure the Wii U was.

According to NPD Wii U was doing better its first 6 months than the ps3 and 360 did in theirs

Uh... no. Not at all.

  X360 Monthly X360 LTD PS3 Monthly PS3 LTD Wii U Monthly Wii U LTD
Nov 326 326 197 197 425 425
Dec 281 607 490 687 460 885
Jan 231 838 244 931 57 942
Feb 160 998 127 1058 66 1008
Mar 192 1190 130 1188 67 1075
Apr 295 1485 82 1270 36 1111

Wii U was behind PS3 by its fourth month and behind Xbox 360 by its fifth month. Not to mention just how few units it was selling each month. Wii U was only ahead for any length of time because of its launch sales. It crashed and burned afterward.



Nuvendil on 19 October 2017
X1Gates said:
the wii u was also doing well before everything went south of the border, lets not forget. We will see how well switch does when the eventual dry spell in games begins (similar to its dead baby brother Wii U).

The Wii U had like two months that were pretty good.  Two holiday months.  The sales then absolutely collapsed in January-February.  In 2013, it sold 3.1 million.  In the first 12 months - which includes it's launch, first holiday, and part of its second holiday - it sold around 5.4 million.  And the Wii U was abbundant as Nintendo unwittingly stuffed the channels.

As of the end of August - only 6 months - the Switch has blown past that and is at over 6 million.  And those 6 months include no Holiday months.  And it launched in March.  And it was pretty badly supply constrained in most major markets.



Slarvax on 19 October 2017
DaveTheMinion13 said:
Slarvax said:

To be fair, the Wii U did pretty good at launch. If "pretty good" means being outsold by every other system except the Vita and the DS in it's first 2 months, that is.

Seriously, people don't understand how much of a gigantic failure the Wii U was.

According to NPD Wii U was doing better its first 6 months than the ps3 and 360 did in theirs

You're not entirely wrong. But I meant these numbers:

Wii U barely outselling the Wii (considered a dead console at that point) and the DS (definitely dead).

Outsold by both Wii and DS.



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the_dengle on 20 October 2017
DaveTheMinion13 said:
Switch and PS4 must still be neck and neck, been like that since April. If Switch is killing it, than Xbox One and PS4 were serial killers when they launched

Well, they launched during the Holidays, and PS4 didn’t have a simultaneous global launch so it had more stock set aside for the US, but sure?

PS4 really took off in September with Destiny but Switch certainly seems to be holding its own compared to XBO. There’s no need to put XBO sales on ‘another level’ compared to Switch. Look at XBO numbers May, June, July, August, September 2014. Switch is beating it every month. In its strongest market!



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ryuzaki57 on 20 October 2017
DonFerrari said:
tbone51 said:

Why cuz it lost? Switch wasnt that bad with supply, maybe both did good?

apparently being the best year of PS4 is a weak performance.

Do you have evidence that PS4 is up YoY?



 

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DonFerrari on 20 October 2017
ryuzaki57 said:
DonFerrari said:

apparently being the best year of PS4 is a weak performance.

Do you have evidence that PS4 is up YoY?

Yes we do. Look to past Boultros NPDs or some VGC articles. In one of those on the last month PS4 was slightly ahead YoY for cumulative sales.



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ryuzaki57 on 21 October 2017

I see. So definitely closer to 300K for Switch by that logic. What was WiiU LTD in the US?

Also, I don't see the usual top 10 rankings, even on GAF. Are those not communicated anymore?



 

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Nuvendil on 21 October 2017
ryuzaki57 said:
I see. So definitely closer to 300K for Switch by that logic. What was WiiU LTD in the US?

Also, I don't see the usual top 10 rankings, even on GAF. Are those not communicated anymore?

NPD seems to have delayed some info.  So expect rankings on Monday.

And do you mean the current LTD or LTD up to the week number the Switch is at?

Total LTD:  5.69 million

LTD at 26 weeks (I think I have this right):  1.168 million

 



tbone51 on 21 October 2017
ryuzaki57 said:
I see. So definitely closer to 300K for Switch by that logic. What was WiiU LTD in the US?

Also, I don't see the usual top 10 rankings, even on GAF. Are those not communicated anymore?

So the ps4/switch can both do well anf coexist with each other right?