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Chris Hu said:
bigjon said:
The movie studios should only blame themselves. They, many of their writers, and many of their stars simply could not resist making political statements. Which is really really stupid when you are selling a product that you want as many people to consume as possible.

The political shit can work if it jives with the product you sell (meaning the type of people who enjoy your product would be drawn in by you espoting your political views) an example of this would be a Michael Moore type, the people who watch something he makes would likely be increase by his political activity. Cannot say the same about products intended to go mass market.

?????? You right wingers crack me up.  Take off your tin foil hat please and take your meds.  There haven't been making any political statements in any major movies lately.  The box office is down because we had a bunch of crap movies and uninspired sequels so far this year.

Why do you assume he's right wing?



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Chris Hu said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Excuse me. Ghostbusters? Women. Wonder Woman? Women. It's not Wonder - MAN is it? 

Ugh, politics have honestly gotten overboard by this point. I mean what's next? 

Ghostbusters was last year it mostly failed because it was a terrible movie not the female cast.  The franchise not having a huge overseas following didn't help either because there a plenty of terrible franchises that get bailed out by overseas numbers. 

Funny you say that because critics think Ghostbusters is a good movie.



Lawlight said:
Chris Hu said:

?????? You right wingers crack me up.  Take off your tin foil hat please and take your meds.  There haven't been making any political statements in any major movies lately.  The box office is down because we had a bunch of crap movies and uninspired sequels so far this year.

Why do you assume he's right wing?

Because a lot of the nutjobs that are right wing think any political statement is responsible for everything bad, and that anyone they disagree with is a Soros-funded SJW who is gonna bring the antichrist.

 



Lawlight said:
Chris Hu said:

?????? You right wingers crack me up.  Take off your tin foil hat please and take your meds.  There haven't been making any political statements in any major movies lately.  The box office is down because we had a bunch of crap movies and uninspired sequels so far this year.

Why do you assume he's right wing?

Did a check. He is.



monocle_layton said:
Lawlight said:

Why do you assume he's right wing?

Because a lot of the nutjobs that are right wing think any political statement is responsible for everything bad, and that anyone they disagree with is a Soros-funded SJW who is gonna bring the antichrist.

 

I read what he said and nothing indicates that you are right.



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Shadow1980 said:

Box Office Mojo has inflation-adjusted weekend revenues going back to 1982. There have been many weekends a lot worse than this one. The weekend of Sept. 20-22, 1985 was the absolute worst since 1982. The only real blockbusters running at the time were Back to the Future, Rambo: First Blood Part II, and, to a lesser extent, Cocoon, and they had all been out three months or more at that point. Teen Wolf and Pee Wee's Big Adventure weren't quite blockbusters but still did fairly well but they too had been out for a while at that point. The only movies released within the past month (4 weekends or less before that weekend) were Creator, Plenty, Kiss of the Spider Woman, American Ninja, and Compromising Positions, all of which failed to be hugely successful (Kiss of the Spider Woman, the most successful of those made $41M adjusted on a limited release).

And I see the same pattern in other weekends with poor box office showings: it had been a fair number of weeks since the last film with truly big mainstream success had released, with some films that ranged from decent to middling in terms of performance being more recent. Nothing big was released this past weekend. The only real blockbusters that have made $150M or more that are still running and in the top 20 are Dunkirk, Spider-Man, Despicable Me 3, and Wonder Woman (War for the Planet of the Apes may or may not pass he $150M, but isn't too far behind at nearly $143; everything else in the top 20 is way behind PotA and the other big ones), and they've all been out for well over a month (Dunkirk is the most recent, having had its 6th weekend). Everything else is either not a film geared towards mainstream audiences and/or isn't really a big "tent pole" release, except maybe for the Emoji Movie and Valerian, which have proven to be total bombs.

Granted, the population is a lot bigger now than in a lot of those other poor weekends, and this weekend was a notable standout for being the worst in a good long while, but given the total desert out there right now, it's no surprise that this weekend was a rough one.

In terms of per capita ticket sales, things have been kinda sorta steady since the mid 60s. Movies were obviously a much bigger deal in the pre-TV days, and from the end of WW2 to the early to mid 60s we saw a massive drop. We have been seeing a gradual decline over the 21st century, though, with a roughly 30% drop since 2002.

Maybe because of increased competition from other entertainment options. Maybe it's simply because of what Hollywood is releasing. Maybe it's ticket prices, which, despite them having not increased any when adjusted for inflation since 2010, are still quite a bit more than the average over the past 30-35 years:


Maybe it's a combination of those factors. Who knows? But overall, there's nothing to indicate that Hollywood is facing a crisis anytime soon. The movie industry is still making a ton of money, and many millions of Americans flock to the theaters each year, purchasing hundreds of millions of tickets.

The number of people going to the theatres is decreasing while the population is increasing. The average ticket price is going up every single year - that's what's keeping the numerical value up. Hollywood isn't in crisis - movie theatres are the ones facing a crisis.



Chris Hu said:
bigjon said:
The movie studios should only blame themselves. They, many of their writers, and many of their stars simply could not resist making political statements. Which is really really stupid when you are selling a product that you want as many people to consume as possible.

The political shit can work if it jives with the product you sell (meaning the type of people who enjoy your product would be drawn in by you espoting your political views) an example of this would be a Michael Moore type, the people who watch something he makes would likely be increase by his political activity. Cannot say the same about products intended to go mass market.

?????? You right wingers crack me up.  Take off your tin foil hat please and take your meds.  There haven't been making any political statements in any major movies lately.  The box office is down because we had a bunch of crap movies and uninspired sequels so far this year.

I have a question for you. What makes you think that a political statement inside, or outside the movie proper (of any kind, really) won't make a net negative impact on the total sales of the movie (unless the movie itself would benefit from the additional publicity to its intended audience)?



 
I WON A BET AGAINST AZUREN! WOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

:3

And come on, the Oscars weren't that far back. Lol, no poltical statements lately...



Lawlight said:
monocle_layton said:

Because a lot of the nutjobs that are right wing think any political statement is responsible for everything bad, and that anyone they disagree with is a Soros-funded SJW who is gonna bring the antichrist.

 

I read what he said and nothing indicates that you are right.

Well, you can wait for his response then



Lawlight said:
Chris Hu said:

Ghostbusters was last year it mostly failed because it was a terrible movie not the female cast.  The franchise not having a huge overseas following didn't help either because there a plenty of terrible franchises that get bailed out by overseas numbers. 

Funny you say that because critics think Ghostbusters is a good movie.

A few critics liked it, most thought it was average at best and a few totally panned it. At best you could say critics thought this movie was pretty average.