I got my Switch about two weeks ago. I already have 5 games for it: Zelda, Mario Kart, Splatoon, Fast RMX, and Mr Shifty. I've VERY pleased with all 5 of them. They are all great. I've never gotten 5 games for a system so quickly, so yeah I'm pretty pleased with it. The first week or so I only played in handheld mode and loved it, except played some two player Fast RMX with my brother in tabletop mode and that was just a freakin cool experience being able to play a handheld multiplayer. Then when I got splatoon I finally took my tv out of the closet and played in tv mode and that was even cooler! The Switch is an amazing console. The whole hybrid thing is highly satisfying. Love the joycons, though obviously playing two player, one with each joycon, is a bit cramped but still works and is really cool.

Joycons are awesome, being able to play handheld or tabletop or tv mode is so cool, games are great, graphics are aweosme, the whole system is a dream!

I haven't even gotten into Zelda that much so far because I started off beating Mr Shifty which is a great game, then played a some Fast RMX, Mario Kart, and Zelda. Then got Splatoon and man that game is fun! Put more time into Splatoon so far than all the other games combined. Need to get more into Zelda though! Next game I'll get is Mario.

My only gripe is Nintendo STILL sucks at online. How is it possible to be this bad at online in 2017. Having to use a phone app to chat is just weird. But the thing that really irked me is yesterday I played online Mario Kart against my brother who got a Switch same day as me, and I realized you can't join matchmaking together! We just had to play against each other with a bunch of CPU opponents. That is incredibly lame. I almost felt like I had to apologize to my brother for how much Nintendo sucks at online. Nintendo has two premiere multiplayer games for this year (MK and Splatoon) and they didn't even provide normal lobby/invites/matchmaking with it for playing with friends in one of them. WTH?!?!

The system is not a handheld, its a hybrid.The joycons are what they are because they need to fit that criteria.They need to be flexible enough to be used on the go or at home, hence their design.

But yeah, the alternative he is looking for is the pro controller.It was made in mind for people like him(and me).

In handheld mode with the two joy-con attached it's your gas. You use it constantly and it's awful. :(

After a while I had a constant pain developing in my right thumbs bottom joint. I have never wanted to change a control scheme from thumb stick to trigger so badly, but Nintendo wont allow it.

Dropped my Switch for the first time, yesterday. The left Joycon popped off. Aside from that, no issues. I think it kinda wobble now but that might be in my head.

Maybe, just maybe I want to use the console in handheld mode too? I mean, I'm paying good money for an underpowered console because it has that feature, so maybe I don't want to use it to play on my TV only, with a controller for an extra 70 bucks.

You don't need to explain to me why the joycons are designed this way, I get that this was the only way to make the whole hybrid concept work. But to me they didn't do a "fantastic job", it's more of an okay compromise. The joycons are inferior to the Wii Motes for multiplayer, in handheld mode the Switch is crampier than the 3DS and for a good home console experience you need to pay extra...

Then the system would not be for you?Dont get me wrong, you can complain, its everyones right, but its not like Nintendo can make a system that everyone will agree with 100% of the decisions made.There will always be people that will love the joycon design, and people like you that wont be a fan of it.As far as we can see, they made the best decision possible for the idea that they had, and it is inevitable that someone would not be pleased along the way.And for those, Nintendo gave an option of a better alternative.What else that you want?Nintendo cant make a system based on the desires of one person alone.

The point I am making is that Nintendo, as any other company, looks at the bigger picture and tries to please them, not the minority.And even being on the expensive side, Nintendo gave an alternative for these minority(you and me).What else do you expect out of a company?

Yes, I guess you're right - in its current state the system is not for me. That's why I'm not buying it, although I would really like to play some of the released and upcoming games. But I'm not paying for something that I can't use.

However, my point is that this could be fixed easily. With the Switch's concept of detachable controllers there are so many possibilities to make custom controllers for all kinds of purposes. The only question is if it would be profitable for Nintendo. But with at least 10% of Switch owners complaining about the lack of ergonomy and difficulties to play games like Splatoon 2 in handheld mode, I am pretty confident that "handheld mode only" joycons with more grip, bigger buttons, and a better positioning of the right stick would sell pretty well.

Oh yeah, definely.And thats certainly something that might be possible to do in the future.The reason that they didnt release a more "robust" joy con as of now is maybe because they wanted to focus on lesser stuff to make the concept easier to sell(as in, less things to promote and make the message simpler to pass on), and could also be because they could find a right design that dosent compromise the "joycon becomes two controllers" idea(but if the Switch keeps on selling as well as it is, I dont think they would have an issue of selling such joycon as an acessory down the road)

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Makes sense from a marketing perspective.

But there's also a part of me that thinks that Nintendo won't care at all if there are some people who don't like the joycons. They don't really have a history of giving their customers exactly what they want. Maybe it will be an issue for them when it becomes evident that the joycons absolutely don't work for esports (Splatton, Smash), thinking that they also supported the GC controllers on WiiU.

Could be.After all, Nintendo isnt exactly the only company to do that.There is also the point that maybe such an acessory wouldnt sell enough to justify its existence(Nintendo must surely have some sort of internal data that they got from  group tests and such about how many would absolutely need such a joycon).They would be wrong naturally.

Nintendo must also be thinking along the lines that, for those kind of people, the Pro Controller must be enough.Either way, I think its safe to assume that we wont be seeing such design for at least a year.I think Nintendo is more than happy with the sales as it is, and truth be told, they have bigger challenges.