niceguygameplayer said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said: Your entire argument is flawed and it's for a very obvious reason : People aren't buying the Switch at 400$ for power. You essentially said "Wow, people are buying a weak console for 400$! Of course a powerful console like Xbox One X has a chance at 500$!" No. Consoles very rarely get bought for power. And your list of reasons could be said by anyone. But they won't likely happen. |
Read my reply to Segasanshiro. Power indeed has helped win sales and XB1X is a more significant leap than in probably any one generation. And ofcourse any one can say what I said, but I collected these in my post and said them with my own take. Is there something wrong with that?
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My entire problem is that your posts make no sense. Your original post kickstarting this thread talked about the Switch being super duper underpowered but wowzaaa it's selling at 400$!!! Completely ignoring that the hardware has nothing to do with the sales. So you start off the thread talking about power per dollar, but then don't actually make any argument toward this idea till your 3rd point, which again, is out of touch because the Switch isn't bought for it's specs, at *best* it's bought for it's relative power as a handheld but even then it's a stretch to say the X can succeed because it's performance per price compared to the Switch. Your original post just feels jumbled and starts off with a stretch.
Your response to Segasanshiro is pretty bad. There were a lot of factors for why Nintendo's system won over Sega, and while both companies ran an agressive marketing campaign around specs, Sega's marketing was arguably even more about power than Nintendo's. What made Nintendo's console win were the games, otherwise we'd be seeing blast processing ads from Nintendo and not their losing competitor. Your point about the n64 is incoherent. You essentially say all the bad things about the n64, and then say it was less powerful because of it. "It had cartridges and while it did 64 bytes, it didn't do them well" = less powerful than the Playstation ? No. Inserting your opinion does not make something a fact. That's not how power works on an objective level. Cartridges were a big disadvantage but simply saying "this did this bad therefore it's worse" is not an argument for power. For all I know the PS1 could be more powerful than the N64 but you didn't make it very convincing. And also the PS1 had warping. Plus, we draw inspiration more so from N64 games than PS1 games, they've just aged better although i'm sure the counter argument is that the PS1 had crash and FF7.
And honestly the PS4 did not win because of specs, it was cared about only by forum users and internet content creators but very very very few actual people cared. It was because of the better marketing, price, and brand name. Let's be real. We can't pretend like every time a company has success with powerful hardware it's because of that hardware. Consoles are much more about brand recognition and marketing than power, and diminishing returns make this more of a reality than ever. At least in the PS3 era there was a huge difference between some games. The sooner we realize graphics shouldn't matter to THAT EXTENT on a console, the quicker we can get going onto more important developments like good exclusives.