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Facts:

-The videogame crash only happened in America, not elsewhere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_video_game_crash_of_1983

-Therefore the impact the NES had was small, it wasn't popular outside Japan and America, the markets outside America were doing well

-The Genesis would've saved the American industry 3 years later anyway

-NES sold only about 3.5 million units in Europe by 1992

-Europeans had their own consoles and games in the 80s, especially from the UK

-Sega was more popular in Europe (and elsewhere like Brazil)

-Europe (and rest of the world) to this day are still Nintendo's weakest market

This narrative that NES saved gaming is ignorant revisionism. It's actual impact was limited to just one market. In the 80s the industry was seggregated, each region had their own household names. Without Nintendo, Sega would've taken their place.

 

edit: looks like they closed this thread: NES didn't influence anyone. Sega was already an established arcade manufacturer, they released a console day and date with the Famicom in Japan, the SMS and Megadrive were coming regardless how NES was received in America. These consoles weren't made for the American market in mind but the Japanese.

Whether the US market tanked or not, it wouldn't have mattered for videogames anyway, as I said, the regions were seggregated and each market was different. Japan didn't depend on American sales to survive for like 2 more decades. Whether NES came to America or not, you'd still get all the Nintendo games for decades to come.



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Ok



Also just out of interest how can you state a future that didn't happen ie "mega drive would have saved the industry" as fact?



I think everyone already knows this, you seem to have a bee in your bonnet over Nintendo.



 

Turkish said:

Facts:

-The videogame crash only happened in America, not elsewhere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_video_game_crash_of_1983

-Therefore the impact the NES had was small, it wasn't popular outside Japan and America, the markets outside America were doing well

-The Genesis would've saved the American industry 3 years later anyway

-NES sold only about 3.5 million units in Europe by 1992

-Europeans had their own consoles and games in the 80s, especially from the UK

-Sega was more popular in Europe (and elsewhere like Brazil)

-Europe (and rest of the world) to this day are still Nintendo's weakest market

This narrative that NES saved gaming is ignorant revisionism. It's actual impact was limited to just one market. In the 80s the industry was seggregated, each region had their own household names. Without Nintendo, Sega would've taken their place.

you just want to say you want sega to make consoles again?...



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Nice to know. Even if gaming died in america, it would have picked up with a different console or if sony still introduced playstation.



Still, the NES was a lot more popular than any other console before. If you don't consider it to be significant for the gaming industry, the only correct answer in the other thread is Atari 2600.



Europe was a small market and NES helped revitalized the market in both US and Japan. Consoles were not a big thing until NES in Japan. The two biggest markets that matter most it did.

I'm a huge SEGA fan and that last statement is so blatantly false. SEGA was completely reactionary to NES with both SMS AND Genesis.Sonic was reactionary to Mario. Again NES standardized licensing. Famicom had DLC and online with a modem. NES/Famicom gave us the most iconic franchises in history. Final Fantasy,Mega Man,Zelda,Mario,Dragon Quest,Castlevania,Metroid and more (yes it was ported to everything but NES first). I'm sorry but Alex Kid..again a reaction to Mario who would not even exist without Mario..but let's say he was made anyway with no NES. Alex Kidd was not going to be the game Mario was. The only Zelda like games on SMS were cloning Zelda.

No NES no SMS no Genesis no NEC TG16 no PS1. Also Genesis was not introduced til 1989. Famicom in 1983. That's not a 3 year gap. SMS in 1985 and again was made to counter the Famicom.



The gaming market would look vastly different without the NES; Playstation never would have been made, which means gaming might have been stuck as a kids only kind of thing. PCs would have been even more popular than they are now. Although, I think there would be fewer gamers as a whole.

Say what you will about Nintendo and the NES, but they shaped the industry for the better.



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SegataSanshiro said:

Europe was a small market and NES helped revitalized the market in both US and Japan. Consoles were not a big thing until NES in Japan. The two biggest markets that matter most it did.

I'm a huge SEGA fan and that last statement is so blatantly false. SEGA was completely reactionary to NES with both SMS AND Genesis.Sonic was reactionary to Mario. Again NES standardized licensing. Famicom had DLC and online with a modem. NES/Famicom gave us the most iconic franchises in history. Final Fantasy,Mega Man,Zelda,Mario,Dragon Quest,Castlevania,Metroid and more (yes it was ported to everything but NES first). I'm sorry but Alex Kid..again a reaction to Mario who would not even exist without Mario..but let's say he was made anyway with no NES. Alex Kidd was not going to be the game Mario was. The only Zelda like games on SMS were cloning Zelda.

No NES no SMS no Genesis no NEC TG16 no PS1. Also Genesis was not introduced til 1989. Famicom in 1983. That's not a 3 year gap. SMS in 1985 and again was made to counter the Famicom.

This.