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I am

Theist 96 20.25%
 
Atheist 178 37.55%
 
Agnostic 96 20.25%
 
Spiritual but non theist 29 6.12%
 
Other 32 6.75%
 
God. 43 9.07%
 
Total:474

If God exists, he (he has a gender btw) is a dick who is unworthy of our worship.



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Im agnostic, so the discusssion is not a factor into anything for or against the existence of a god unless there is proof.



Yes absolutely.

If I became convinced in the Christian god for instance, I would immediately and radically change my life. If it were proven to me that life is eternal, and I could spend that eternity (minus 30-100 years or so) in paradise or in torment, I would have to alter my life to meet the criteria for heaven.



There is no god but God, may He be praised and exalted, and Mohammed (peace be upon him) is His messenger.

Try and debunk this atheisters and christcucks!



fory77 said:

There is no god but God, may He be praised and exalted, and Mohammed (peace be upon him) is His messenger.

Try and debunk this atheisters and christcucks!

Educated Christians dont try to debunk allah.....just the level of value of theh messengers. Allah is Jehovah. They all worship the same god (except the athiests). Christians believe jesus to be part of the trinity which mohammad was a prophet in worshipping. Christianity and islamic faith are related through abraham.



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aLkaLiNE said:

Atheist -> agnostic here. I think it matters only as much as knowing your own personal history or the history of our species matters. Ymmv. But again the term God can be applied abstractly to many ideas. Is God the creator of this physics simulation we live in? Or is God merely the creator or predecessor to mankind as we know it. Or perhaps "He" is a metaphor for the infinite sound wave that is the universe.

 

 

In my opinion, the jump between man and our supposed closest relative, the chimpanzee is too large to be identified by a 1% difference in our genetic database. Something, someone, or perhaps a group intervened and played a role to what we were in the past and what we are today.

If you consider that humans share 50% of their DNA with bananas, 1% seems about right to me.  I've actually seen up to a 4% difference stated.  I also read in a book that human males have a bit more identical DNA shared with male chimps than they do with human females.  I have to admit I don't have the source handy, though.  

 

As to the question in the OP... it really depends on which god we're talking about.  If it's not one that causes people to suffer forever for not believing in him or his son then I'm probably okay with it.  



John2290 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Christians dont try to debunk allah.....just the level of value of theh messengers. They all worship the same god (except the athiests). Christians believe jesus to be part of the trinity which mohammad was a prophet in worshipping. Christianity and islamic faith are related through abraham.

You fed the troll...why Stage? Why? I thought you were smarter than this. :(

LOL I will try to better myself. 



If a god exists, it matters what he does with me after I die. Also, if this god's morals differ from ours, it might be important.



I was a Muslim, a very (oblivious) religious one too, and I just lately after months of pondering became agnostic.

I deem my experience far tougher compared to many of you, Muslim countries (mostly third world countries) tend to be revolving around religion and making it an essential part of the laws, morality and culture of the society. We have a lot more religious practice like praying 5 times a day and fasting to the point that abstaining from them raises quite some alarming suspicions.

Anyhow back to the subject. As agnostic, I see that God, the Creator or the Designer (if there is one) didn't bother coming at us so we aren't able to prove nor disprove his existence. It's just that human beings tried their best to justify their insecurities with His existence without any substantive evidence for it. Things started with rocks, lightening, volcanoes, earthquakes, etc. which led to a series of mythologies, before getting to where we are now, our unresolved fear of death and afterlife had created this invisible God, who's going to judge us for our deeds and reward us accordingly.

Now seeing how mind crushingly big our universe is, I hope that someday sooner than later, we can find any evidence of a life form beyond our small rock that is Earth. That alone should overthrow all the bullshit we've been fed these entire years.



Kristof81 said:
o_O.Q said:

it does because without god objective morality cannot exist

All primates show signs of morality. It's "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" type of relation, where wellbeing of whole group is more important than individual gains. It's pretty basic, natural behaviour, which simply pays off and chimpanzees or gorillas don't need God to explain this. 

Yep, altruism is an evolutionary trait. It's important that a population survives because you need a male and a female to reproduce offspring and a larger population encourages greater genetic variation. It doesn't matter how fit an individual is if he/she cannot find a mate. So while altuistic behavior negatively affects individual fitness, it boosts population fitness allowing the population to survive and reproduce offspring.