"______ got the most YouTube views."

"______ got the most 'buzz' on ______"

You guys will find any flimsy metric to suggest more or less success at this event.

I thought this site was supposed to be about hard sales numbers, not likes on Facebook. 

Dont give them ideas, that'll be the next topic... X got the most likes on facebook, means the end of Y and Z.

Difference this time around is that the Xbox is superior in almost every hardware metric.

It's not a true 4k console though.

It is certainly a good thing. You want all the console manufacturers to "win" as they all drive the industry forward.

Scorpio's superior hardware should mean more games end up at 4k than the Playstation 4 Pro.

I don't expect that to happen. The Playstation 4 Pro didn't take the majority of sales from the base Playstation 4.

Clearly you haven't played a PC game in 20 years.

If they don't overhaul the visuals, I don't see why Halo 5 couldn't hit 4k.

But as the game stands now, it will only be 1080P on Scorpio.

You make it sound as if there is nothing positive to say about the Xbox platform as a whole. - Which couldn't be farther from the truth.
More to life than being a negative nancy about everything. All the platforms bring something positive to the table.

So was ps3 back in its day at $600. Got creamed by the weaker and cheaper 360. 

I imagine it having a good debut month, maybe two then things settle down and go back to normal. Similar to last year when the S model took a few slow months before Sony returned to winning.

Yeah I think most of us agree that the biggest market this will initially go for is current XBO users, if there is a good trade in, I expect it to do well for a good 3 or 4 months even with that price, but then I expect Sony to just march through with all their games.

I'm curious how ppl think Xbox "won" E3. All I saw were games that were announced years ago like crackdown, sea of thieves, cuphead, ashen, another year of forza, a ton of small indies, and some multiplats. And a $500 upgrade console with no games to showcase its power except for possibly anthem by bioware, a multiplat.

If that's winning, then that just shows how much E3 has fallen in recent years. IMO however, I kindly believe Nintendo and Sony had a very close battle for first place. Both had amazing new games on display.

days gone, detroid, gow, spiderman....Déjà vu?

http://www.ign.com/wikis/e3/Sony_at_E3_2016

marvel vs capcom, uncharted lost legacy, destiny 2

https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2016/12/03/all-the-announcements-from-playstation-experience-2016/

Its true they were not new games, but days gone, detroit, gow, spiderman, gt, knack2, ni no, uncharted dlc, horizon dlc.... have to admit it was better than Forza, crackdown and sea of theives in terms of AAA quality numbers... and thats the general argument, both had games we'd already seen times before, but sony had way more and had better demos.... 

The bigegst disappointment for me was lack of dates, but as we are only 6 months into the year, I suspect they are going to say the dates at other shows to spread out the excitement a bit more (maybe gamescom, paris games show or PSX).

Except the Playstation 3 had the Cell and split memory pools which made the console sub-optimal to develop for, resulting in a ton of multiplats performing better on the Xbox 360.

Besides. The Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 sales ended up as a wash at the end. I wouldn't say either console got "creamed".